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Title: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: Dee3 on Wednesday 07 January 15 09:01 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know how I can find information on this regiment? I have a john Aicken who was a member in1858 and transferred to the royal Marines in England, he then lived there married and had children.  I am hoping that some records have been kept from his time in the Militia as I was able to get information from Nat. Archives about his time in the Marines.  On his marriage certificate he names his father as Mathew Aicken, I also have a copy of the Attestation document for the Marines which states he Lived in the Parish of Bucknor and town of Broughshane antrim apart from this I have no other information on his life in Ireland,
cheers Dee
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Wednesday 07 January 15 18:39 GMT (UK)
Bucknor is probably Buckna which is just outside Broughshane. What denomination was John, and what was his father Matthew’s occupation?

I noted this grave inscription in Kirkinriola cemetery, which is very close to Broughshane:

ERECTED BY THOMAS GILLILAND, DUNFANE. IN MEMORY OF HIS UNCLE MATTHEW AIKEN, WHO DIED 12TH FEBRUARY 1896, AGED 83 YEARS.
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: km1971 on Wednesday 07 January 15 18:44 GMT (UK)
The musters are in the National Archives. They are not online

Ken
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 07 January 15 19:14 GMT (UK)
Buckna townland was in the parish of Racavan.

At time of Griffiths Valuation c1862, there is no obvious Aicken of any spelling in Buckna, but there is an Anne Aiken in nearby Drummuck (also known as Drumock/Drumack) townland:

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/antrim/racavan.htm

she is possibly the Widow Aickin noted in Buckna Presbyterian church visitation records for Drumock of similar timescale.



Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: Dee3 on Thursday 08 January 15 04:07 GMT (UK)
Thanks for everyones input but not sure where this leaves me, I only have the name of the father on marriage certificate (which took place in England) and his occupation was Labourer.  The age of my John was 19years and 1 month on his Attestation doc dated 8/6/1859.  Are the musters that you mention in the Nat Arch. in Ireland? I did find a 1851 census for a John Aikin but the townland was Ballyclan, parish Killead and I have no idea where this is!! I was hoping when I got the information about the Marines that it would have mentioned his religion as well as next of kin etc, but no such luck, thanks Dee
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 08 January 15 06:14 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   Ballyclan is in the Crumlin district on the east coast of Lough Neagh and about 30 miles south of Broughshane.

Regards
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: Dee3 on Thursday 08 January 15 22:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that information, so would it be reasonable to think that the family there could be related to my aickens or is 30 miles to far?
regards Dee
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: kingskerswell on Friday 09 January 15 07:36 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   I would suggest that it is a bit far for those days but if they were labourers then they may have moved about to find work.

Regards
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Friday 09 January 15 10:36 GMT (UK)
Bear in mind that the 1851 census is incomplete. All that remains are a few fragments. The census for the Broughshane and Buckna area is lost. So there could easily have been an Aicken family or two there. It's a common name.
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: rathmore on Monday 12 January 15 11:22 GMT (UK)
This site might be able to help you

http://www.army.mod.uk/infantry/regiments/29515.aspx
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: Dee3 on Wednesday 14 January 15 00:38 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the information about the census and also the web address for the army, much appreciated
Dee
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: therave on Monday 08 January 18 15:39 GMT (UK)
Dee3:. Did you have any luck with Antrim Rifles?  My2xgf William Wright was also a member. 
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: Dee3 on Tuesday 09 January 18 00:46 GMT (UK)
Hi, no unfortunately was not able to get any further information.  Was hoping to find out parents and
possible address for him.  Have details of his record once he gets to the UK in the Marines but again no details of parents,cheers Dee
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: gaffy on Tuesday 09 January 18 08:55 GMT (UK)
Just to be aware that there is a will available to view online for the Matthew Aiken of Dunfane (Drumfane) mentioned at Reply #1 who died in 1896, you can find it at the link below, his death registration is also available to view:

https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05909/4677132.pdf

Unfortunately, I'm not seeing anything in the content of the will to indicate this was John's father.

Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: Regorian on Tuesday 09 January 18 09:38 GMT (UK)
Please see this, should tell you a good deal, very detailed.

https://www.royal-irish.com/stories/antrim-militia.
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: Dee3 on Wednesday 10 January 18 05:03 GMT (UK)
Yes have looked at the info in the will but it does not seem to be relevant.
Do records actually exist for the Militia?  And if so would they show an address or the next of Kin and name?  Cheers Dee
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: Regorian on Wednesday 10 January 18 07:54 GMT (UK)
Didn't his Royal Marine record refer to previous service in another corps/regiment? Antrim regiment was in Crimean War and Indian Mutiny.
Title: Re: Antrim rifle regiment of militia 1850's
Post by: Dee3 on Thursday 11 January 18 05:53 GMT (UK)
The documents I received from the Nat Archives mentions that he was a volunteer in the Antrim rifle Regiment of the Militia on the 11/2/1858 and then joined the Royal Marines 7/6/1859.  There are various Ships he was on and time served to entitle him to a pension in 1881.  No other information about his home adress or his parents or next of Kin before leaving Ireland.
cheers Dee