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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: catherineh on Wednesday 07 January 15 00:46 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone
I am looking for descendents of my 3 x great grandfather - Hugh MILLIGAN - an assisted emigrant to New Zealand aboard the 'Clontarf' in 1858 with his wife Margaret, 9 children and niece Elizabeth.
The ship's passenger list shows Hugh aged 44 and Margaret aged 42 from Ireland. The children were:
Hugh (21)
James (19)
Sarah (17)
Thomas B (15)
Elizabeth (14)
William John (11)
Isaac (8 )
Mary Ann (6)
Margaret (4)
Niece Elizabeth Milligan (22)
Sarah was my 2x great grandmother.
I am keen to find out more about the family, both before they emigrated and what happened to them all after they arrived in New Zealand. I believe Hugh's father was also Hugh, but I haven't been able to confirm this.
If anyone out there can help, I'd appreciate anything to assist in finding out more about the family, both in New Zealand and in Ireland.
Thanks
Catherine
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Hi Catherine,
Welcome to Rootschat :)
This may be helpful for a start.....
A William John Milligan married Married Mary Eliza Burnidge in 1873.
Their children (?):
Registration Number-
1874/27748 Milligan Sarah Dorah Mary Eliza William John -
1893/10147 Milligan James Burridge Mary Eliza William John -
1891/2744 Milligan Hugh Henry Mary Eliza William John -
1890/3096 Milligan Margaret Mary Eliza William John -
1894/13983 Milligan Hannah Blanche Mary Eliza William John -
1880/18607 Milligan Samuel Mary Eliza William John -
1877/1995 Milligan Letitia Mary Eliza William John -
1875/9121 Milligan Elizabeth Mary Eliza William -
1882/11575 Milligan Alice Mary Eliza William John -
1884/20062 Milligan Mary Eliza Mary Eliza William -
1888/14494 Milligan Catherine Ann Mary Eliza William -
1886/7173 Milligan John Thomas Mary Eliza William John -
1878/8813 Milligan William Mary Eliza William John
www.dia.govt.nz/births-deaths-and-marriages
Minniehaha.
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A little more.......
Isaac Milligan married Mary McGrath in 1876.
Their children:
1877/2005 Milligan Eliza: Mary, Isaac -
1888/14563 Milligan Walter George: Mary, Isaac -
1878/5009 Milligan Francis Isaac: Mary, Isaac -
1886/12012 Milligan Henry William: Mary, Isaac -
1879/8773 Milligan Charles Henderson: Mary, Isaac -
1884 Milligan Hugh Thomas: Mary, Isaac.
1882 Milligan Rose: Mary, Isaac.
Minniehaha.
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From PapersPast - 1884 :
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
"Star" (Christchurch) - 28 May 1884 - page 2 - Deaths
Death - Mary Ann Florilla BEVERIDGE - 32 years - wife of Thomas and 3rd daughter of Hugh MILLIGAN.
~ Lu
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Also from Papers Past:
The 'Press', dated 9.3.1918. Mention of the estate of Isaac Milligan.
Births, deaths & marriages on line index records the death of one Isaac Henrderson (sic?) Milligan in 1917, aged 68 years. This age ties in with your Isaac Milligan.
Minniehaha.
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Hi Catherine
Welcome to RootsChat. :)
It seems that others are also researching this MILLIGAN family (there are at least two MILLIGAN family trees published on the ancestry.com website.)
~ Lu
Edited to add: Is maybe one of the trees at ancestry yours ? ;) I see there are a few message board posts also for Hugh MILLIGAN ?
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Thanks Lu - the Ancestry tree isn't mine, but does belong to a family member who was searching for Hugh Milligan previously. I think the search hit a brick wall at the time so didn't go much further.
I appreciate all the information provided here today; you've given me some avenues to search and follow up, so will see where it goes.
Many thanks
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Hi Catherine
Do you happen to have the death certificates (or death printouts) for Hugh senior and his wife Margaret ?
~ Lu
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Hi Lu
I have Margaret's death reported in the Press on 14 January 1891 -
"CLARKE - On January 13th at Fendalton, Margaret H Milligan, fifth daughter of the late John Clarke of Ballymacreely, aged 75."
I have also found her record in the Addington cemetery, buried 14th January.
I haven't ordered printouts yet as still looking for Hugh's death.
I found a death in 1877 for a Hugh Milligan, but BMD has the age as 37, so it would appear that this is Hugh Jr . A check of the cemetery database shows a burial in the same plot as Margaret. There are news reports from the Press showing administration for the estate granted to Hugh Milligan, father of the deceased, so this all seems to fit with it being the son.
The only other listings in BMD don't fit for age, so still working on this one.
Catherine
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Some snippets..........
1.An account of the voyage of the 'Clontarf' appeared in the 'Lyttelton Times' on 8.1.1859. Mentioned are "Hugh Milligan, wife and 4 children" and under 'Single Women', "Sarah, Elizabeth & Elizabeth Milligan". 'Single men', Thomas Milligan.
2.Marriage of Sarah Jane, eldest daughter of Mr. Hugh Milligan of Kaiapoi, to William Heyward. 'Lyttelton Times', dated 12.9.1863.
Hugh Milligan buried Addington Cemetery, died 1.3.1877. NZBDM records his age as 37 years.
Hugh Milligan buried Barbadoes Cemetery, died 2.2.1883. NZBDM records his age as 52 years.
Probate held @ Christchurch (1877) for Hugh Milligan (the Younger)- Cheviot Hills, Contractor.
Minniehaha.
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From the 'Press' dated 25.4.1877.........
Re Goods of Hugh Milligan, deceased:
Mr. Jamieson, for Mr. Duncan applied for Letters of Administration to Hugh Milligan, as father of deceased".
Funeral notice in the 'Press' dated 2.2.1883 [Hugh Milligan].
Funeral notice in the 'Press' dated 3.3.1877 [Hugh Milligan].
Minniehaha.
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Hugh Milligan married Margaret Hood Clarke, 20 Jan 1853 at Kilmacrenen, Donegal, Ireland
Father's name was Hugh Milligan and spouse's father's Name was William Clarke (from the IGI)
"This is very close but I notice the spouse's fathers name is wrong, do you know Margarets middle name? What does her H stand for?Did she pass it on the her children/grandkids. County Down and Donegal are both in Ulster.
Ballymacreelly, John Clarkes home was in Killinchy civil parish in Co. Down
All at PRESBYTERIAN,KILLINCHY,DOWN,IRELAND - father off all a John Clarke:
Thomas Clarke baptised 27 July 1812
James Clarke baptised 26 November 1819
Martha Clarke 31 baptised August 1813
Margaret Clarke baptised 29 November 1815
Mary Ann Clarke baptised 31 July 1814
Sarah Clarke baptised 30 November
Robert Clarke baptised 4 July 1824
Elizabeth Mc Quoid Clarke baptised Clarke 4 October 1831
John Clarke baptised 22 May 1822
Samuel Clarke baptised 13 October 1817
Ann Clark baptised 22 May 1822
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'Lyttelton Times' dated 18.9.1868.
"In the Supreme Court of New Zealand etc.,
I, Hugh Milligan, late of Oxford, in the said district, farmer, but now a prisoner for debt in the gaol at Lyttelton," etc. etc.......
Arrived on 'The Mystery', Hugh Milligan, wife and two children, Antrim, labourer.
'Lyttelton Times' dated 8.1.1862.
A family connection?? Just throwing it into the mix. :)
Minniehaha.
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From FindMyPast (FindMyPast) record ex FamilySearch >
Irish Marriages
MILLIGAN - Hugh
CLARKE - Margaret Hood
1851 - Milford, Ireland
Edited to add: Milford is in Co. Donegal
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Thanks for this Lucy
Interesting to see the marriage was in 1851 - the eldest child (Hugh) was born in 1837, and the youngest (Margaret) was born in 1851.
Perhaps this was a second marriage for Hugh?
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The Hugh Milligan married Margaret Hood Clarke marriage at Kilmacrenen and the Hugh Milligan married Margaret Hood Clarke at Milford are only 9.4km apart on the map (strange!)
January 24 1851 At Kilmacrenan, on Monday, the 20th inst., by the Rev. Henry C. Cochran, MR H. MILLIGAN, of Killygarvan, to MARGARET HOOD CLARKE, fifth daughter of the late MR JOHN CLARKE, of Ballymacreely, county Down
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/kilmacrenanmn.htm
So the IGI must be wrong? Wrong year, wrong father in law too but right couple? Was it typed up wrong? Was the marriage registered in Lincoln and Kilmacrenan?
*Killygarvan is a parish in Kilmacrenan
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Perhaps this was a second marriage for Hugh?
Hi Catherine
I did a bit a digging earlier re: the Hugh / Margaret MILLIGAN family (just haven't had time to get back here to post the findings.) ;)
I'd also firstly entertained the possibility that this might be a second marriage for Hugh, however after viewing the Probate record of Hugh MILLIGAN junior (d. 1877) I found it contains an affidavit from Margaret Hood MILLIGAN (wife of Hugh MILLIGAN the Elder of Oxford, Canterbury), confirming that she was the mother of Hugh junior.
[Hugh MILLIGAN junior, a Contractor living at Cheviot Hills, died at Christchurch Hospital on 28 February 1877, intestate (i.e. without leaving a will.) His father Hugh, His mother stated that (his her son) was a bachelor and did not leave "lawful issue". Hugh (the elder) sought to administer the estate. ]
I'll post a link so you can view the Probate file.
~ Lu
Edit: On re-reading the Probate file, I see that it was actually mother Margaret Hood MILLIGAN who made the statement above ... (have amended accordingly. ) ;D
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Thanks Lu - how interesting! Would love to see the probate file
Does raise a good question now though about the marriage date, a good 14 years after Hugh's birth?
I have seen that it wasn't uncommon at the time for a marriage to take place just before or a little after the birth of a child, but 14 years (and 8 or 9 children) seems odd.
More digging to be done, I think :)
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Hi Catherine
Whilst Hugh MILLIGAN junior's Probate record is available at FamilySearch, it is one which hasn't been indexed (meaning it is not "surname searchable"). So the following is the method I use to retrieve such records (those which come under the category of "browsable").
You firstly need to check the Archives New Zealand's Archway website (to see if a Probate file exists) and then to note the "record number" / "year" / "region" :
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22383745
Record No. = CH100/1877 : Year = 1877 : Region = Christchurch
Then go to ....
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1865481
> On this page scroll down and click on "Browse through 2,776,961 images"
> Next select "Christchurch Court"
> Next scroll to probate records for year 1877. There may be several groups for that year, but what you are looking for is the group containing "Record No. 100".
[Record 1877 : P94/77 - P110/77 ]
> Next you'll need patience ;) to locate Probate file "Record No. 100" . On the top bar you'll find a box with "Image" containing a number and forward and backward arrows <- ->.
Unfortunately the Record No. does not correspond with the "Image No." so you need to guess where it might be. In a case like this - where there are files numbered from 94 to 110 - I would start at the halfway point - by deleting the number already in the image box and inserting a number which is roughly half the total number of images. From there I'd use the forward or backward arrows to go in search of the Record No.
Annoyingly, Record No's. seem to appear on only the first page of each Probate file (and are located near the top of the image). AND, some of these Probate files can consist of many pages, and others, very few. It's all a bit "hit and miss" when you start searching and patience is the key.
As I've already located the Probate record for Hugh MILLIGAN junior, I can tell you it commences at Image No. 90 - through to Image No. 106. [Record 1877 : P94/77 - P110/77 ]
~ Lu
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Found it! and thanks for the tip - you've opened up a whole new avenue of search for me, as I didn't realise there are un-indexed files available.
I wonder if any other dead ends and brick walls have records 'hiding' and just waiting to be found :)
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Hi Catherine
Glad you were able to find the Probate record. ;)
I'm still delving into your NZ MILLIGANs (lots of records and resources to be checked) ... because there were other Hugh MILLIGANs ... who had children with remarkably similar names. ;D
I'm a bit curious as to the wording of the death notice (1891) for Margaret Hood MILLIGAN ... which didn't mention a (late or otherwise), husband ?? And also, the absence in NZ death records of her husband Hugh ???
My recommendation would be that you go ahead and obtain the death printout for Margaret. It may give information that will progress your search.
[The 1851 marriage notice (Kilmacrenan), giving details of townlands and parishes for Hugh MILLIGAN and father-in-law John CLARKE, will hopefully make a search of Ireland records a little easier. Yes, obviously there was some sort of "impediment" to Hugh and Margaret not "tying the knot" until after the birth of their last-born? Maybe it was just something as simple as "parental" opposition ?? ]
~ Lu
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I wonder if the Milligan family were Catholic and the Clarkes Presbytarian? Maybe this was frowned at in 1851?
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I've been researching some of Hugh Milligan's children in the hope that it might lead to something new to help solve this puzzle.
Hugh's daughter Elizabeth married William Groves in NZ in 1868. They had 2 children in NZ then migrated to Australia and settled in north Queensland and raised a family of 10 children.
Elizabeth died in 1929, and I've found this in the Queensland and Australian Death Records - Elizabeth Otway Groves died 26 July 1929, father Milligan and mother Elizabeth Otway
So wondering now if Elizabeth Otway was Hugh's first wife, or if this is a typo in the transcription (being Elizabeth's forenames)? Interestingly, several of Hugh's children seem to have 'family' names as second names - Thomas Batt Milligan, Isaac Henderson Milligan, Margaret Hood Clarke Milligan - so perhaps Otway is just another?
I haven't been able to find anything more about Elizabeth Otway, so hoping someone out there will be able to help shed some light :-)
Thanks Catherine
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Hi Catherine
Go to Australian newspapers at Trove website >
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
> search on "Elizabeth Otway GROVES"
where you'll get a number of hits.
~ Lu
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Edited to add: Is maybe one of the trees at ancestry yours ? ;) I see there are a few message board posts also for Hugh MILLIGAN ?
Thanks Lu - the Ancestry tree isn't mine, but does belong to a family member who was searching for Hugh Milligan previously. I think the search hit a brick wall at the time so didn't go much further.
Hi Catherine
The Ancestry tree for MILLIGAN (possibly the one prepared by your family member ?), does contain a good deal of info on MILLIGAN descendants. Perhaps look for ancestry trees for some of the Australian-born descendants (and their spouses) ??
~ Lu
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Hi, I'm also descended from Hugh Milligan, through his son, William John.
Yes, Hugh arrived in Lyttleton aboard the Clontarf, January 1859, with his second wife, Margaret Hood Clarke and his children to his first wife, Letitia Grey, and their only child, Margaret.
They went on to farm in the Oxford area. He is recorded in the NZ Electoral Rolls as residing in Kaiapoi in 1864 and 27 January 1870, it was written in the Star that Hugh was fined 5s for letting his cows roam freely in Kaiapoi. There are other articles in Paperspast regarding the family in this area. He was residing in Oxford in the Electoral Roll of 1872.
The wife of another family member has recently sent me the death certificate of Hugh senior. He died in Camperdown, Sydney in 1892 after having a stroke a couple of months prior to his death. The informant was his daughter-in-law, Sarah Milligan, most likely wife/ widow? of James. Hugh had been in NSW for 4 years. Stated that he had been married to Letitia Grey for 20 years, and to Margaret Clarke for 45. These would be estimates.
Cheers
Kerrie
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Hi, I'm also descended from Hugh Milligan, through his son, William John.
Yes, Hugh arrived in Lyttleton aboard the Clontarf, January 1859, with his second wife, Margaret Hood Clarke and his children to his first wife, Letitia Grey, and their only child, Margaret.
They went on to farm in the Oxford area. He is recorded in the NZ Electoral Rolls as residing in Kaiapoi in 1864 and 27 January 1870, it was written in the Star that Hugh was fined 5s for letting his cows roam freely in Kaiapoi. There are other articles in Paperspast regarding the family in this area. He was residing in Oxford in the Electoral Roll of 1872.
The wife of another family member has recently sent me the death certificate of Hugh senior. He died in Camperdown, Sydney in 1892 after having a stroke a couple of months prior to his death. The informant was his daughter-in-law, Sarah Milligan, possibly second wife/ widow? of Thomas. Hugh had been in NSW for 4 years. Stated that he had been married to Letitia Grey for 20 years, and to Margaret Clarke for 45. These would be estimates.
Cheers
Kerrie
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Hi,
My biological great grandfather Gilbert Walter Coventry married a Margaret Milligan and had 6 children, my grandfather was one of those children called Arthur Rogers Coventry.
My paternal Coventry lines go back to the Earls, I've only just been looking at all this recently as Coventry was my birth name and I've never tried to look for my biological grandparents until recently.
Arthur died in 1975 and his wife died in 1980 so I would of never known them anyway, just the timing of the births probably isn't your usual as my birth father was born when his father was 50 and I was born when my birth father was 50. So there's a century gap between my birth and my grandfathers birth.
I'm trying to find out more about my great grandfather Gilbert who moved to Canterbury , NZ and married a Milligan in 1880, also has a military record to look into.
Others have said about there being a lot of Hugh Milligans, so I'm just seeing if there's a connection at all.
Regards,
Trent
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Hi everyone,
Hugh Milligan is also my triple-great grandfather. I'm descended from his daughter Mary Anna Florilla Milligan, through her youngest child (of five, that I know of), named Joseph Bertie Beveridge.
Brent, thank you for mentioning the possible connection with the Coventry's. Joseph enlisted for the Boer War and for WWI under the name Henry Coventry, and it's been a mystery to me where that name could have come from.
James