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Title: Maggie Garvin
Post by: colinryan on Friday 02 January 15 07:26 GMT (UK)
searching for any information on a Maggie Garvin born 24 August 1890
 at 144 Arden st North Melbourne.
Mother Mary Garvin born 8 May 1868 Shamrock reef near Walhala, Victoria,
married Thomas John  Ryan 14 April 1891.
Mary Garvin died 11 July 1937 and is buried Melbourne General Cemetery

on Maggie Garvin's, birth certificate states father "illegitimate"
Parents of Mary Garvin,
father,John Garvin ,
mother Johanna Corbett.
have not been able to find any trace of Maggie Garvin after her birth. any piece of information greatly appreciated
Colin Ryan
Title: Re: Maggie Garvin
Post by: warncoort on Friday 02 January 15 08:41 GMT (UK)
Did she become a RYAN? Thomas may have been around long before marriage.
Title: Re: Maggie Garvin
Post by: colinryan on Friday 02 January 15 08:53 GMT (UK)
have not been able to find any information, about her name, if she became a Ryan or not. there was some information on Trove about Thomas John  Ryan, mentioned 2 children one aged 14 and one aged 12 would have been good info except they had the 14 year old as a boy and the 12 year old as a girl.
Thomas John Ryan married Mary Garvin and had one more child Thomas Ryan b 5 April 1894.
have found Thomas Ryan's grand children, and have spoken to them but at this point have very little information on either Thomas John or his son Thomas. They did not even know about Maggie. My next search will be adoption records
Colin
Title: Re: Maggie Garvin
Post by: cando on Friday 02 January 15 09:20 GMT (UK)
Legal adoptions were not introduced to Vic until the late 1920's.  I think you may find it difficult to find any paper trail for an informal adoption/foster care in the 1890's.

Cando
Title: Re: Maggie Garvin
Post by: cando on Friday 02 January 15 09:22 GMT (UK)
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have not been able to find any information, about her name, if she became a Ryan or not. there was some information on Trove about Thomas John  Ryan, mentioned 2 children one aged 14 and one aged 12 would have been good info except they had the 14 year old as a boy and the 12 year old as a girl.

Newspaper reports are often incorrect.  Have you definitely identified this Thomas as your person of interest?

Cando
Title: Re: Maggie Garvin
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 02 January 15 09:32 GMT (UK)
Previous threads:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=708221.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=406080.msg5514465#msg5514465
Title: Re: Maggie Garvin
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Friday 02 January 15 09:33 GMT (UK)
PROVguide 60: Adoption, Wardship and Related Records:

http://prov.vic.gov.au/provguide-60
Title: Re: Maggie Garvin
Post by: colinryan on Friday 02 January 15 11:07 GMT (UK)
i cannot confirm that thomas john was her father only speculation. but can confirm that thomas john ryan married mary garvin and had a son called thomas