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Hi
Need any info that I can get on this man born approx 1885 in Tunbridge England .. died in 1916 in |Ontario Canada. his wife was listed as Kate brinkhurst or at least that was the informant on his death cert. and he was married so l am assuming it was her, what I am looking for is any info on Kate or a child born to her in the next yr or 2 his name was Edward also ...the child as far as I know lists his mother as Kate brinkhurst but later had his name changed to Edward lane, I don't have a subscription to ancestry .ca so if anyone can give me anymore info on denis or Kate or the child Edward that would be great ,
Thanks in advance '
Jamie
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Hi Jamie
The 1916 death cert mentioned, for which "Kate BRINKHURST " of the same address (87 Peter Street, Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario), is the informant, names the deceased's father as "Wm BRINKHURST". All records point to this Dennis Edward BRINKHURST actually having been born in Sussex to William BRINKURST and his wife Jane Alma ELLIS. The family was in Sussex 1881, In Speldhurst Kent 1891 and in Tunbridge Wells by 1901 & thereafter.
Travel 1910: UK to Canada
Dennis E BRINKHURST 25, Rly Work
Departed Bristol on 29 Dec 1910, on the 'Royal Edward' bound for Quebec, Canada
Travel 1912: Canada to UK
Denis BRINKHURST 26, Bricklayer, Last Permanent Residence; Canada
Arrived at Bristol on 5 Dec 1912 on the 'Royal Edward', out of Halifax , Nova Scotia
The child Edward BRINKHURST or LANE - are you saying this child was born 1916 -1920?
On what record does he list his mother as BRINKHURST? Did he also state his own Surname as BRINKHURST at that time? (For privacy reasons for living persons, is this person deceased?)
Could be red Herrings....but:
1920: A Kate BRINKHURST married on 9 Oct to Albert BRYAN in Brandon, Manitoba
1921: Census in Brandon, Manitoba show :
Albert age 40, b abt 1881 England, imm 1902
Wife: Kate 31, b abt 1890 England, imm 1899
Dau: Florence 16, b abt 1905 Alberta
Son: Alfred 15, b abt 1906 England
Son: Roy B., 7, b abt 1914, Ontario
Albert's first wife was Norah - they are in Ontario in 1911 - with Florence, Alfred and an older son.
Cheers
AMBLY
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That was a good find Ambly... Jamie, you can send for that 1920 marriage here: http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php It may or may not give her maiden name if this is she.
The son Roy B....could be a late child with Nora dying in childbirth?....Or does he belong to Kate?
( BTW have not found a death for Norah in Ontario or Manitoba)
The 1911 census with Bryan family....Francis marked as born Quebec, not Alberta...
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=77668
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=77667
an online tree with Denis http://www.blackmanfamily.org/p26016.htm
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Not saying this is positively he, but could look into this being Roy from the 1911 census
Find A Grave has a Roy Dennis Brinkhurst
Death 8 February 1965 burial: 1965 Winnipeg, Brookside Cemetery
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=111392934
So are you thinking that Kate had another child out of wedlock after the death of Dennis....and perhaps gave him up, or are you simply looking for a Kate with that last name and this one came into view? Was your Edward known to have been born Ontario for certain?
If you think this Roy may have been a rellie, then probate file, will, estate file can be found at the archives...Year 1965: Brinkhurst, Roy D. 993/65 E67 214
You can request a lookup through the site http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/probate/
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There is an obituary for Roy Dennis Brinkhurst in the Winnipeg Free Press. It does say he was 51 when he died and he was born in Hamilton. It said he was survived by 2 brothers and 3 sisters but doesn't give names.
I do find it curious that this Edward would list his mother as Kate Brinkhurst if that was her married name rather than by her maiden surname.
Jacquie
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Good find jacquie..Well it is looking to be the correct family with one more son being?? Edward Lane? Now was that Kate's surname or the name of the father....
Albert Bryan Head 31 Eng. Norah Bryan 33 Eng.
Nellie Bryan 9 Eng.
Frances Bryan 7 Quebec
Florence Bryan 6 Quebec
Alfred Bryan 4 England
Voter's lists have an Evelyn with Roy 1945 Winnipeg Mb. & 1949 Selkirk Mb.
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Wondering if we might simply have a case of age discrepancy...as I looked at the 1921 census and saw a lad of 15 who states he was born Quebec in 1906 / both parents born England...lodging & a student in a reformatory... don't see any others by that surname in Quebec.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01efk/ (You may have to sign in ) The image is also available to view
Are we looking for the Edward Brinkhurst whose marriage & death were in England ?
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' I do find it curious that this Edward would list his mother as Kate Brinkhurst if that was her married name rather than by her maiden surname. '
Surely as her name was Kate Brinkhurst when she gave birth to him, then that was the name she would use, and he would be given the Brinkhurst surname - why should she revert to her maiden surname?
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We don't actually know if Kate Brinkhurst who was informant to the death of Dennis Edward BRINKHURST was in fact his wife (legally or otherwise). She could have been a sister, cousin....
There's a myriad of scenarios - including , if she gave birth to Edward while legally named & the widow of BRINKHURST - then I suppose Edward would be legally required to be registered as "BRINKHURST". He may have later adopted the use of for example, his mother's maiden name or the name of his natural father - either of which could be LANE. Or maybe she was nee BRINKHURST, but he later took the name of his natural father or a step father. The OP may be able to clarify further on answering my question in Reply#1.
I spotted a mention in the Winnipeg Free Press: Friday, April 16, 1954 - Page 33, of a Roy Brinkhurst Bryan family thanking folk for their support after a recent bereavement.
Then find this:
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/1154570?PHPSESSID=bfa2dc1cbb74c8df7b4af31f1f5a7fdb
Katherine (Brinkhurst) BRYAN ?-1954
From a Memorial Stone:
Hamilton Cemetery (Section S), Wentworth County, Ontario
In memoriam to his third wife Katherine Brinkhurst.
Widow of Daniel and mother to Roy Dennis
was born to George Brinkhurst and his wife Ann Gurrs of Tunbridge Wells, England.
Katherine was the mother to Albert, Marguerite, Albert John and twins Mervin and Marjorie.
Died 1 April 1954. Interred at St. James, Winnipeg.
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Cheers
AMBLY
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FreeBMD
George BRINKHURST
Anne GURR
MARRIAGE, Mar Qtr 1881, Lewes, Sussex
Cheers
AMBLY
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Winnipeg Free Press: Tuesday, June 8, 1982 - Page 42
http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/MervinBryan/5303356
Mervin BRYAN died age 57 years.
Survived by his twin & her husband, a sister and one brother.
Predeceased by his mother Kate Bryan on April 1954 and his father Albert Bryan on September. Served in the three Armed Forces joining the Royal Canadian September until November 1945 and then joined the Canadian Army from August 1950 until September and then joined the Canadian Air Forces from December 1953 until January.
So the headstone information regards Kate posted previously, said she was a widow of Daniel.
The Obit above for Mervin didn't mention Roy.
Cheers
AMBLY
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In short (found via census and online trees etc):
Benjamin BRINKHURST (1824-1896) and his wife Eliza ELLIS
Had among their issue:
son: George BRINKHURST (b1856) who married Ann GURR and had daughter Kate, born 1887,
Little Horsted, Sussex,
son: William BRINKHURST (b1855) who married Jane Alma ELLIS and had son Dennis Edward 1886
(possibly, Jane Alma was a cousin of some sort?)
So it looks like Dennis Edward BRINKHURST who died 1916 and the Kate BRINKHURST who married Albert BRYAN, were first cousins. And maybe they were 'married' also….which may explain why we've not found an actual marriage?
But THEN....
Another online tree, has Kate BRINKHURST, daughter of George BRINKHURST & Ann GURR, marrying in 1906 to George William ADDICOTT and dying 1967 in Berkshire!!
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Cheers
AMBLY
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That is quite an extensive memorial stone! It would be nice if one thing found had all truths on it, though...This answers the question of her parents and maiden name, but it doesn't have "Daniel's" last name... she was married as Brinkhurst... Son Roy has middle name Dennis. Then there are her children as Bryan and the count is off, three brothers and two sisters rather than the other way around? Then Merve's obit leaves out mention of some siblings. The birth for Roy should be available by now...http://www.familyhistoryalive.com/Ontario-Vital-Records--Births-Marriages-Deaths.html
Has anyone been able to find a birth or anything on the lad in Quebec?
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This is the transcript of the Memorial Stone in Hamilton, Ontario:
The youngest of nine children ALBERT BRYAN was born to James Thomas BRYAN
And his wife Eliza BLUMSON in the Parish of St Matthew Bethnal Green on
the first day of June 1881 Grays Inn Lane
Grandson to Benjamin BLUMSON and his wife Elizabeth NEWMAN
and James Thomas BRYAN the Elder and his wife Ann PRYOR of the parish of
St Leonard Shoreditch, London, England.
Died 31 Aug 1967
In Memory of his first wife Ellen Ada McCARTHY only child
of George Henry McCARTHY and his wife Ellen BRITTAIN. Born 28 Aug 1882
the Parish of St Peter, Stepney, London, England. Ellen Ada was the Mother
to Albert Edward, Ellen, Florence, Alfred and Adelaide.
Died 8 January 1910
Interred Necropolis Toronto
Their Daughter Ellen BRYAN of the Parish of St Jude Pancras
London England was born 14 Aug 1902. As the wife to Ezra Howard GIBSON,
Nellie was the Mother to Irene, Bertha, Margaret, Howard, Earl, Martha? and
-------?, interred as the wife to James BETHLEY?.
Died 20 January 1968
His second wife AMY TRANTER born to George William TRANTER
and his wife Lily Howle OLDHAM 27 August 1886 of the Parish of St John
Warwick, Birmingham, England. Amy was the mother to William.
Died 29 March 1918
In Memoriam to his third wife Katherine BRINKHURST widow of
Daniel and Mother to Roy Dennis, was born to George BRINKHURST and his wife
Ann GURRS of Tunbridge Wells, England. Katherine was the mother to ?Albert?
Marguerite, Albert John and twins Mervin and Marjorie
Died 1 April 1954
Interred St James Winnipeg
[This last part is probably the death details of Albert BRYAN himself]
------------ ---------- ---------- ---------- --------------- ----------- ---------- ----
In the Parish of ---------- Bethnal Green London ---------- -------- Mother -----
Died 7 May? 19--
Interred at St John ------- ------
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The Stone is clearly based on the BRYAN family - and once read in it's entirety, indicates it was probably erected by the children of Ellen BRYAN & Ezra GIBSON - this Ellen being the daughter of Albert BRYAN and his first Wife, Ellen Ada McCARTHY.
Further down the stone, the 3rd wife of Albert is mentioned and on reflection, should be read as saying:
Katherine BRINKHURST (nee BRINKHURST) came to marriage with Albert BRYAN as the widow of 'Daniel' and from 'Daniel', was the mother of Roy Dennis. From Albert she was the mother of Albert(a)? Marguerite, Albert John and twins Mervin and Marjorie.
There are two 'discrepancies':
1) Albert's first wife Ellen died 1910 and his 2nd wife was Amy who died 1918. Yet we see him in 1911 with wife 'Norah" - Is "Norah' is a Census mistake and in fact on the 1911 Census this was Amy, his 2nd wife? But he didn't marry Amy until 1914 (see at end)!
2) Katherine BRINKHURST's first husband is named as Daniel. I think this is simply an error, and the man they are mentioning (whom they know is the father of Roy Dennis) they didn't actually know much about. They don't even appear to know his surname (he alone does not have one on the stone) and I think they have mis-remembered his first name which they knew began with D. They came up with Daniel instead of correctly, Dennis.
To me, this stone is the proof thus far that the Kate BRINKHURST who married Albert BRYAN was the same one who was the informant to Dennis Edward BRINKHURST's death. I also think that the wider BRYAN family never knew that Kate's first husband (perhaps only common law husband at that) was also her first cousin let alone his surname. The fact that Roy, the son they acknowledge of Kate and "Daniel, has the middle name is Dennis, helps cements that theory.
Katherine's 6 identified children:
Roy Dennis BRINKHURST
Albert (or Alberta?) BRYAN
Marguerite BRYAN
Albert John (Jack) BRYAN
Mervin BRYAN
Marjorie BRYAN
All 6 children are mentioned on the Hamilton stone.
I realise now, Mervin's 1982 obituary only mentions his 3 surviving siblings:
Marguerite, Jack, and Marjorie.
Roy was already deceased, as was the first born BRYAN child (maybe died young).
ONTARIO DEATH Cert 1910:
Ellen Ada BRYAN - Died 8 Jan 1910, age 27, of Heart Disease, daughter of George & Ellen McCARTHY
Adelaide BRYAN - Died 3 July 1910 age 8 mths of Pneumonia
ONTARIO MARRIAGE Cert 1914: 25th April 1914, St Catherine, Lincoln County, Ontario
Albert BRYAN 32, of St Catherine, Decorator, widower, b London, England,
Parents: James BRYAN & Ellen BLUMSON
And
Amy TRANTER 27, of St Catherines, spinster, b Birmingham, England
Parents: Geo. Wm TRANTER & Lily OLDHAM
Cheers
AMBLY
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Wow, nice of you to transcibe the stone, Ambly. I am sorry I did not refer properly to the instances I mentioned. Only the first part was pertaining directly to the stone itself
I had seen a death 1918 for an Amy but didn't put two and two together as there was an Amy Bryan of similar age in 1911 ...There was also the death of perhaps another child for an unnamed Bryan child, age 0, father A. Bryan in 1916
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6DR-SJK
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JNT1-ZYV
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Hi J.J.
I didn't read the stone fully at first (too hard!) which is why I didn't realise who 'Daniel' was , or who the stone was 'centered on'. Only after sleeping on it, pondering over why she's mentioned on a Hamilton Ontario stone when she died in Manitoba, and transcribing it in full did the penny drop ;D So since I'd squinted over it and typed it out, though I'd just as well post it !
I also noted, that on the stone, they referred to Kate's birth family as from Tunbridge Wells (Kent). The Census all along have that family, including Kate's birth in Sussex. But Dennis, who was also born Sussex - his family did end up in Tunbridge Wells. So another 'connecting dot' I think.
As I see it now, three things remain unresolved?
1) Edward LANE / BRINKHURST
If he was the son of a Kate BRINKHURST, is she the same Kate BRINKHURST we're chased around Canada?
2) The supposed marriage of Kate BRINKHURST, daughter of George BRINKHUST & Ann GURRS to ADDICOTT in 1906 in England and her subsequent death 1967 in England. Is the resarcher who has posted that on a tree, half right (marriage) & half wrong (death)? Or completely wrong?
3) MARRIAGE of Albert BRYAN to Kate BRINKHURST in 1920, Manitoba.
Does it identify her parents as George BRINKHUST & Ann GURRS? (I think it probably does and is possibly where the BRYAN descendants got the information from for the Hamilton memorial stone).
Be nice to find Kate arriving in Canada (or US) too! Have looked but couldn't find her?
Cheers
AMBLY
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Hmmm - methinks the plot thickens.
Recalling we have Dennis Edward BRINKHURST arriving in Canada 1910, then back to the UK in December 1912. As yet didn't find him returning across the Atlantic to Canada direct or via the US.
My suspicions are highly aroused by this couple, leaving the UK in 1913, bound for Canada via the US. Not in the least because of the mad discrepancy in ages on the Outward and Inward manifests, and her name "Kitty", which is as pet form of Katherine. Looks to me like they disguised themselves more on leaving, and less on arrival where their ages match the couple we have looked at....
This couple: Departed Liverpool 8 April 1913 on the "CYMRIC", bound for Portland
Ticket 2470
DG BRINKHURST 40, Farmer
Mrs BRINKHURST 37, Wife
English
Country of intended future permanent residence: Canada
But their arrival : Portland, Maine on the "CYMRIC" on 17 April 1913
Ticket 2470 (a bit obscured but can make it out)
Dennis G BRINKHURST 27, married, Farmer
Kitty BRINKHURST 26, married, Housewife,
English Citizens, English Race
Last Permanent Residence: Canada London Montreal
Going home to Montreal, Canada
Have tickets to their final destination (Montreal, Canada)
Have never been to the USA before
Both listed as 5'8",
He of Fresh complexion, Fair hair & Grey eyes
She of Dark complexion Dark Hair and Brown eyes
Both born London, England
If this is the right couple, perhaps it's just the fact they're cousins that's the issue and they're eloping from family. Or/And she is indeed Mrs Addicott......?? :o
Cheers
AMBLY
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Good sleuthing Ambly.
Have not seen evidence of any Brinkhurst in Montreal, and just checked the directories for several years and found no sign of the surname... ::)
Speaking of Quebec I have not seen hide nor hair of Edward Brinkhurst from the 1921 census Terrebonne. Anyone see him headed out of Canada? He'd not be the first person to make himself younger using a false age. ( especially if spouse was quite a bit younger)
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There are these births for 'Kate Brinkhurst', 1850 to 1901
Births March quarter 1880 Kate Brinkhurst Uckfield (Framfield in censuses)
Births June quarter 1887 Kate Brinkhurst Uckfield (Little Horsted in censuses)
Then these marriages, 1890 to 1930:
Marriages September quarter 1901 Kate Brinkhurst and George Richard Pratt Uckfield
Marriages March quarter 1906 William George Addicott, Kate Brinkhurst, Amos French and Edith Novis Uckfield
Added:
Kate Brinkhurst/Pratt showing in 1911, born 1880.
Kate Brinkhurst/Addicott showing in 1911, born 1887. George Brinkhurst age 22 in same household.
Both Kate's claim born Framfield, but that could be how they choose to regard their birthplace
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There are Addicott births in Uckfield 1905 to 1911, but not after 1911.
This death has the wrong age:
Deaths June quarter 1967 Kate Addicott age 77 Wokingham i.e. born 1889/1890
There is this possible marriage to give a 'Kate Addicott'
Marriages Mar 1913
Addicott Walter J Shepherd Hambledon 2a 283 Scan available - click to view
Shepherd Kate Addicott Hambledon 2a 283
Walter J Addicott was born in Hungerford in 1886 and probably died in Reading in 1944.
Too many possible candidates for Kate Shepherd.
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Holy Cow all this work, but where's the poster? Maybe away for the holidays...?
I did p.m. in case notification was turned off...argh, "the suspenders!" as my Mum used to say...
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argh, "the suspenders!" as my Mum used to say...
<< giggle >> ;D
I'm half expecting the OP to come back and say it can't possibly be the right Kate - such is Murphy's law. Still, in that case and anyway we've well exercised our seek and find muscles! Always fun to be involved in a topic that sort of takes off
Happy New Year all & Come back soon Jamie :D
Cheers
AMBLY
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Surely as her name was Kate Brinkhurst when she gave birth to him, then that was the name she would use, and he would be given the Brinkhurst surname - why should she revert to her maiden surname?
Not on BMD registrations - usually for that time period she would be listed under her maiden name.
Your initial post gives no clue as to where your information comes from or what type of document you think had listed Kate Brinkhurst's name as his mother. And it would be helpful if you could respond to Ambly's questions in reply #1.
Jacquie
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Oh boy this is getting real interesting .. was away for abit and missed all the replies but thank you all...
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I don't know if I'm 100% comfortable….
We've potentially exposed a secret or more of Kate BRINKHURST's; we've no way of knowing if any of her known 6 children knew about this child born 1918. And if she's also Mrs Addicott, that's another complete can of worms. We've possibly also unearthed some sort of skeleton regards Albert BRYAN, re: 'Norah'. If any of those children of Albert & Kate's are still living they'd be 90 or older now and unlikely themselves to come across this website. But Grandchildren might…..are we OK with that?
Hi Jamie,
Welcome Back, and Happy New Year :)
Without further assurance of why you're looking into his birth, I'm presently uncomfortable with publicly discussing too many identifying details regards this 1918 born child, who indeed looks to be an illegitimate son born to the 'widowed' Kate then adopted out.
There is an Online (paid-site) tree with this man on it (though it gives the year of birth as 1917, rather than 1918). It also says this man passed away in 1992, Strathroy, Ontario, Canada.
The OCFA lists him :
http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php
buried in Strathroy Municipal (Section N) Middlesex Caradoc , Ref: MX-ST-800
And a photo of his headstone is here.
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/1215244?PHPSESSID=14dccb512545d6f44a2e4a6ac71f808d
Jamie, are you a direct descendant of this man?
As a genealogist, I well understand the drive to find all you can about your tree, by all means - I'm not saying don't. Just cautioning discretion and privacy if there is any suggestion at all that this information could upset anyone who might come across it. Adoption is an emotive subject, even years after the fact, more so if there are 'sensitive issues' surrounding it.
There is no way to know if the child you see in 1921 (is that the one in Barton Twp?) is your chap. We can't assume it is the right boy.
Your next step would be to establish who he named as his father on his marriage record. It also crossed my mind, does the address of his birth tie in with any of the information we'd found?
Cheers
AMBLY
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Isabelle Lane and Edward H (mechanic) Lane are on the ER for 1972 in Mt Brydges Middlesex, Ontario.
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Hello AMBLY, Kate Brinkhurst is my Great Grandmother... Jamie was researching on behalf of my Sisters and I. ...Edward Henry Lane is our grandfather. I have his birth certificate that states he was born as RUSSELL BRINKHURST, March 6 1918, HAMILTON ONTARIO, with Maiden name of mother being KATE BRINKHURST, Father Unknown. There is indeed a lot of missing pieces we would like to try and fill in. I would wish to privately correspond with you if possible.. I could not find a way to personal message you on here...I can be reached at (*)
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I have done my own family's genealogy and decided to do my wife's. Kate Brinkhurst is her grandmother, Albert Bryan being her grandfather.
1. All of the children of Katherine Brinkhurst and Albert Bryan are now deceased.
2. Ambly mentions that Albert(a), and Margarite are two people when in fact she is just one Alberta (first name), Margarite (second name).
3. if you go to this link - http://archive.is/BGaPk (click on Ontario Monumental Inscriptions 18) and go half way down the page you will find the complete translation for Albert Bryan's headstone.
My wife would of been 6 when Katherine died and has little knowledge of her. It was her understanding that Albert Bryan had hired her to look after the children and they ended up getting married. Not sure if that is correct though. They would of met in Hamilton, Ont. but it is not known why they ended up getting married in Brandon.
There was never a mention, to her knowledge of a child being born and given up for adoption. If there was a child born Albert might of been aware of it (maybe not) but it appears no information on this was passed on to the children. Or if it was it didn't go any further. She has no knowledge of Russell Brinkhurst / Edward Lane.
Now as for Roy Dennis Brinkhurst. It was thought that Dennis was his Dad's last name and that when Katherine went back to her maiden name she just added it to Roy's name. However, when I started this genealogy stuff I couldn't figure out why she went back to her maiden name if married to a Dennis. Now after reading the comments about Dennis Edward Brinkhurst I'm starting to think he could be Roy's father. No record of a marriage but those were funny times and with the same last name already maybe it was decided not to bother.
Then there is Norah Bryan mentioned. Never heard of her and my wife was only aware of Albert being married three times. It would be strange that the grandson would have the headstone done for Albert without getting all the information correct. The cost of doing the stone would be pretty high, so you would think one would want it correct. I think that the census is in error or a wrong name was given. Could of been Amy but as mentioned they were not married till 1914. Also could of been some hired help to look after the children at that time.
So when did Kate Brinkhurst and Albert Bryan meet is no known. They could of known each other for a long time or met sometime after Amy's death 1918. But we know that by 1920 they are married.
This is pretty long and I hope not too hard to understand. Sorry Teddy we could not help you a little more.
I have one question is the George Brinkhurst that married Ann Gurrs the same one that is mentioned in the following link?
http://spartacus-educational.com/LPbrinkhurst.htm
It only refers to a Mrs. Brinkhurst and at the end mentions 8 girls and 3 boys with the majority being in Canada.
RJ
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Welcome to rootschat, rjginger.
That link gives George born 1856
and so this family from 1901 living in East Grinstead
George Brinkhurst 45 East Grinstead saddler
Annie Brinkhurst 45 Oxford
Mary Brinkhurst 20
Hettie Brinkhurst 16
Nellie Brinkhurst 14
Jack Brinkhurst 13
Frank Brinkhurst 12
George Brinkhurst 10
Dick Brinkhurst 8
Ethel Brinkhurst 7
Daisy Brinkhurst 5
Bessie Brinkhurst 4
Bert Brinkhurst 3
This marriage?
Marriages December quarter 1878
George Brinkhurst E. Grinstead 2b 262
Annie Roberts E. Grinstead 2b 262
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hello Rjginger and welcome to Rootschat!
I remember this thread in which Ambly noted that we are getting into dark corners where likely only family should be the ones to dig further. We found what we found and altho we all love a good mystery... that is where we'll leave it.
We'd all be delighted to do the more ancestral searches, though, if there are any lookups needed, as that is what we are all here to do....such as the one chempat has done for you...
all the best, J.J.
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Hi I am the granddaughter of Kate Bryan nee BRINKHURST and Albert Bryan . My mother is Alberta marguerite bryan GRANT. Grannies parents were George and ann (gurrs) and born in Sussex county. My mother said her mother was born in tunbridge wells, but my research says its little horsted, Sussex England in the town of isfield, My research also says she was married in England to a George addicotts, and had 2 children named may belle and Sylvia but nobody in the family knew of this! My mother always told me grannie was a BRINKHURST married to a distant cousin or something with same last name,but died and she was pregnant with Roy Dennis when she met Albert Bryan I think in Hamilton and then they moved to Brandon, Manitoba, where they raised his children from a previous marriage to Nora, and had 4 more Alberta, Jack, Merv and marg.
How or when my grandmother came to Canada is a mystery to me. We were just at pier 21 a week ago and they can't find her but do find Albert and Nora and kids. I too would like to confer with whoever is looking into this history. Linda grant
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Hi I am the granddaughter of Kate (BRINKHURST) Bryan. My grandfather is Albert Bryan. Before she married Albert she was married to a ? Dennis Edward BRINKHURST, but he died when she was pregnant to Roy Dennis BRINKHURST. Her maiden name was a BRINKHURST so not sure if she was married to a cousin or what. Would love to know your relation to all this, please contact me. Linda grant
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Hi Linda: I'm Ron McMullin and I am married to your cousin Gail (Marjorie's daughter). As mention in a previous post I kinda jumped over to Gail's side of the family and was doing searches on Kate Brinkhurst and Albert Bryan. I have not done 3 posts on Roots Chat so can not send a private message yet. Not sure how we can hook up. Sorry I took so long in replying to your post.
Ron
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Having difficulty too, call me at 1-807-464-4080
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Rjginger - now you have made 2 posts you can use the personal message system - pm
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Sandra
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Lots of good info, and you are right with most of it. Kate was married to an addicott and had two children whom she left to go to Canada with her cousin Dennis and she was pregnant with Roy Dennis BRINKHURST. But her cousin died and she also gave birth to another boy, Russell who she gave up for adoption and his name was changed, (that I will not say to what) she then met Albert Bryan who supposedly was a widower, and they moved to Brandon,Manitoba where he was quite successful until the crash of 29 and lost everything. He left Kate with their 4 children Alberta margerite, Albert John, Margery and Melvin the twins as well as Roy Dennis BRINKHURST to raise them herself and he went back to Hamilton to be with his previous family.
Where do you fit in with all this? I am granddaughter of Albert and Kate, daughter of Alberta margerite Bryan grant , aka "birdie". 1-807-464-4080