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Title: can anyone identify a rank
Post by: Hotrocks on Friday 26 December 14 17:27 GMT (UK)

Hi, this is a picture of a raiding party of the 1/8th (irish ) Kings Liverpool regiment. There is some speculation that the gentleman front right wearing a woolly hat could be my grandfather. Can anyone determine the rank of this chap?

Title: Re: can anyone identify a rank
Post by: barryd on Friday 26 December 14 20:05 GMT (UK)

I would not like to meet any of that lot on a dark night. Lanyard on the neck may mean an officer. Statically he would be a Second Lieutenant. Is that a revolver another member is holding near your person's right ear?

Title: Re: can anyone identify a rank
Post by: jess5athome on Friday 26 December 14 20:16 GMT (UK)

Hi, I have to agree with barryd, He looks to be a officer of some sort, lanyard around neck most probably for his revolver, that and the "Cut" of his jacket and wearing a tie.

Regards
Frank.

ADDED: He looks to have a single "Pip" on his shoulder. (Second Lieutenant)

Title: Re: can anyone identify a rank
Post by: Hotrocks on Saturday 27 December 14 11:39 GMT (UK)

Thanks guys,

Well that ties in as he was a Second Leiutenant. This is a confirmed picture of him when he was wounded but the uniform looks different. Any thoughts?

Title: Re: can anyone identify a rank
Post by: Gwil on Saturday 27 December 14 12:33 GMT (UK)

Have you looked in their War Diary for the Raid. Majority of these diaries name Officers involvement in raids/attacks etc. You might strike lucky. Onlt about 3 quid.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7354877

Gwil

Title: Re: can anyone identify a rank
Post by: Hotrocks on Saturday 27 December 14 17:16 GMT (UK)

Quote from: Gwil on Saturday 27 December 14 12:33 GMT (UK)

Have you looked in their War Diary for the Raid. Majority of these diaries name Officers involvement in raids/attacks etc. You might strike lucky. Onlt about 3 quid.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7354877

Gwil

Thanks I'll give that a go

Title: Re: can anyone identify a rank
Post by: Hotrocks on Saturday 27 December 14 17:53 GMT (UK)

Ive just read the record and it isnt him but I am looking forward to reading the rest to see if I can find his name.

Thanks

Title: Re: can anyone identify a rank
Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 28 December 14 13:17 GMT (UK)

The one front right is deffo an officer....Capt or below...Probably a subaltern. Trench raid party as has been pointed out.