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Title: Boer War
Post by: Harwood on Wednesday 24 December 14 12:05 GMT (UK)
Can anybody help,
All i have is Walter Henry Webb, wife Bessie, married 1892 in Ipswich,
Looking for his death in the Boer War,
Many thanks in anticipation.
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 14:29 GMT (UK)
There are three WH Webb's that I could find that fought in the Boer War.  However, by googling his full name and Boer War I found the following:


"W H Webb
Casualty Type: Wounded
Casualty Date: 26 Jun 1900
Casualty Place: Senekal
Rank: Private
Force: South Africa Field Force
Regiment: Imperial Yeomanry
Battalion: 4th Battalion
Number: 1120
not sure if he died from wounds later"

Senekal is in the (Orange) Free State.  I am not sure whether this guy was not a South African. Possibly the National Archives in England would have more on his enlistment.
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Harwood on Wednesday 24 December 14 14:38 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking Nookie,
Seen this one , He was a William Harcourt Webb.
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 15:43 GMT (UK)
Do you have any idea where he might have fought here in South Africa, or which regiment he might have been with?

There are a number of accounts of various battles in the war so this could possibly help pin it down.
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Harwood on Wednesday 24 December 14 15:52 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately i don't Nookie,
Just hearsay that he died in the Boer War,
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 16:22 GMT (UK)
I looked on eggsa.org under gravestones and found a number of Webb's who had died in the war.  None of them had the same initials, unless I looked incorrectly.  eggsa's photographs are all taken by volunteers, but I thought they had done most of the war graves.

I will see if I can find him on the South African war graves site.  Have you looked at the British Archives to see if he is listed there at all? 

Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Harwood on Wednesday 24 December 14 16:48 GMT (UK)
Thanks Nookie,
No i haven't looked on the British Archives, No idea how to do so,
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 17:16 GMT (UK)
I am not very good at it either!  It always seems to be a bit of a hit and miss.  However if you go to National archives, a screen pops up "looking for a person?"  then take it from there.  However while having supper I suddenly thought that most of the soldiers were volunteers and I don't think their families received pensions if they were killed. However they might have his will on record.  The other place to look is the London Metropolitan archives.  Much easier to search as far as I am concerned.
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Harwood on Wednesday 24 December 14 17:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Nookie,
Maybe i am looking in the wrong place,
Just found this under, Naval & Marine personal who served ashore & afloat during the Boer War :-
Walter Webb.
No. 268540
medal No. 2292.
rank or rating E R a 3d.  ???
sent to Vivid 10/3/02.

any ideas as i haven't a clue.??
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: alanmack on Wednesday 24 December 14 17:22 GMT (UK)
Try a name search on http://angloboerwar.com/. They found your man on the QSA medal roll but no confirmation of his death though.
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Harwood on Wednesday 24 December 14 17:24 GMT (UK)
Sorry,
Haven't a clue how that Santa got there,
Tried to Modify and he is not there  ???
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Harwood on Wednesday 24 December 14 17:27 GMT (UK)
Try a name search on http://angloboerwar.com/. They found your man on the QSA medal roll but no confirmation of his death though.

Did they,
Sorry couldn't get my head around that site,
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 17:32 GMT (UK)
Never mind about Santa - he can pop up anywhere as far as I am concerned!

Did Walter live anywhere close to the sea?  If not I don't think it was him as I would have thought he would have had to have had training to become a sailor.

I cannot find him on the South African Boer War grave site, but did find another site www.casus-belli.co.uk which has ten W H Webb's listed under the Roll of Honour Boer War.  Unfortunately it is a pay site.  However I wondered whether you could look down the regiments they were from and see whether any of them popped up close to Ipswich. Possibly he would have joined as a volunteer and picked the closest recruiting station!

Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 17:39 GMT (UK)
I have checked the boerwar site again, and can still only find the initials WH Webb - no full names.  If you go onto the site at the top there is name search.  Click on that then search by surname.  Type in Webb and it will give you a whole lot of them listed alphabetically.
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: alanmack on Wednesday 24 December 14 17:43 GMT (UK)

Did they,
Sorry couldn't get my head around that site,

They did indeed, with full name as you supplied. Look on the top bar for "Name Search" which will take you to the search page. Just put in the Surname "Webb". It is a bit clunky  >:( as you have then to work your way to your man, who is on page 20 something of 37 IIRC.
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 17:52 GMT (UK)
alanmack are you looking for Walter Henry Webb?  Have just had another look and he is not on page 20 upwards!  I only had one glass of wine with supper and don't think it affected me that much!
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 17:53 GMT (UK)
By the Way he is not on the London Metropolitan Archive site.  Will now try the National archives.
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 17:58 GMT (UK)
Do you know when and where WH was born?  Found some references on the National archive site, but would need to have a bit more information to make sure it is the right guy.
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: alanmack on Wednesday 24 December 14 18:03 GMT (UK)
Oops! must be my mistake then  ::) I picked up on the Wm Harcourt Webb rather than the other one. Sorry if my misunderstanding has led you up the garden . . .  :'(
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 18:07 GMT (UK)
No problems!  I was just starting to get worried about my capacity for wine  ;)
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Harwood on Wednesday 24 December 14 18:07 GMT (UK)
Do you know when and where WH was born?  Found some references on the National archive site, but would need to have a bit more information to make sure it is the right guy.
Sorry Nookie,
Awaiting his marriage certificate as i know his wife re married and emigrated to Canada in 1909.
Would have waited before posting if i had known how difficult he was going to be to find !!!
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: km1971 on Wednesday 24 December 14 18:10 GMT (UK)
The Imperial Yeomanry was created in the UK. One problem as you have discovered is that the Boer War medal roll only gives initials of forenames.

Also, how can you be sure he did not enlisted as plain Walter Webb? The attestation forms for the IY are in the National Archives. There were three W Webbs - but no Walters:

Webb, William    38542, Private    131st Coy., 29th Bn. I.Y.
Webb, William Harcourt    1120, L/Corporal    6th Coy., 4th Bn. I.Y.
Webb, William Thomas    24033, Trooper    67th Coy., 18th Bn. I.Y.

The forms for the CIV - City of London Imperial Volunteers have been lost. The only W Webb was WG Webb anyway

Other individual records - ie covering the Regulars and short term volunteers are no longer available in Kew, since they were put on Findmypast - or Ancestry if he served beyond 1913 without a break.

You may be better off ignoring the military angle and look for something in his local newspaper.

Ken
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: alanmack on Wednesday 24 December 14 18:12 GMT (UK)
No problems!  I was just starting to get worried about my capacity for wine  ;)

I think I'd better open the bottle just by me in sympathy ;D Any excuse.

Merry /Christmas to you both Harwood and Nookie

(New Year's resolution: I must read posts better)
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 18:12 GMT (UK)
I have just looked at the Ipswich Roll of Honour for the Boer War and the only Webb that appears is a Thomas Webb.

If WH was still living there then it does not look like he died in the Boer War.

Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 24 December 14 18:25 GMT (UK)
Merry Christmas to you all as well.  Enjoy the wine  :)
Title: Re: Boer War
Post by: Harwood on Wednesday 24 December 14 18:29 GMT (UK)
I have just looked at the Ipswich Roll of Honour for the Boer War and the only Webb that appears is a Thomas Webb.

If WH was still living there then it does not look like he died in the Boer War.
Snap Nookie,
Just searched all the Suffolk Memorials and he is not on any of them.
Think my best bet is to wait for the marriage certificate and see if his name really is Walter Henry ??
Many thanks and a happy Christmas to you all.