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I keep thinking surely there is an obituary for my ancestor Jonathan Short/Shortt who died in Dublin in 1832 and was a Solicitor. I know his wife was Anna Maria Antisell but would really like to confirm his children and he had a son John Shortt a Barrister married to Charlotte Owen! A fresh set of eyes might have an idea. I'm forever hopefull!
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The Dublin Evening Packet for 6 August 1846 has an announcement of the marriage of a daughter Grace:
Aug. 3. in Parsonstown. the Rev. Robert Wilson, of Clonmel, to Grace, only daughter of the late Jonathan Shortt, of this city, Solicitor, deceased.
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Related topic
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=600548.0
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Coincidence with names ? Alice Shortt aged 18 died 1846 wife of John Shortt barrister
http://www.limerickcity.ie/Library/LocalStudies/ObituariesdeathnoticesetcfromtheLimerickChronicle/1846/
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Elizabeth, Joseph, Thomas Spunner, Charles and William. Children of Jonathan Shortt and Anna Maria were baptised in St Paul’s Dublin. See Church records on Irishgenealogy.ie
THE Friends of the late Jonathan Shortt, who died suddenly on the 4th Instant, have deemed it advisable to enter into subscription, for the benefit his Widow and eight young Children, whom he left totally destitute.
To the Profession with which he was more immediately connected, it is unnecessary to make any statement; he was known to them all, and highly respected, both for his ability and integrity, but to those who were not personally acquainted with him, it is necessary to state that he held a situation in the office of one of the Six Clerks of the Court of Chancery, for upwards of 35 years, during which period, he conducted the business of that office for upwards of twenty-seven years, and had acquired such an Intimate acquaintance with the principles and practice of the Court, that he was looked up to on all occasions for information, with a salary not more than commensurate with the demands of a large family; he was not enabled make a future provision for them.
Subscriptions will be received by the following Gentlemen, viz.: —Doctor Brereton, 19, Arran-quay; Darley, Esq., 31, Leeson-street; Jonathan Harding, Esq- 64, Queen street; William Shortt, Esq., No. 7, Richmond-street; Trustees, who have undertaken to see that the Subscriptions are applied to the object for which they arc intended.
James Newcomen, Esq., Secretary, Law Society, and at the Bank of J. D. La Touche and Co.,
Saunders’s News-Letter 30 May 1832 and 6th June 1832, 9th June, 17th June
His furniture was sold 8th June; See Saunders’s News-letter 2 June 1832 and his Library on 4th June see Saunders’s Newsletter 4th June.
Called to the Bar: John Shortt eldest son of the late Jonathan Shortt, late of Blackhall Street in the city of Dublin Gent Attorney deceased FJ 3 Nov 1838.
I note comment that Grace was “only” Daughter in 1846 when she married. Had Elizabeth, Anna and Francis died along with one other to have eight surviving children in 1832?
So Jonathan was never in the military.
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Thank you. I have been sure there must be something somewhere! . Thank you so much!
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I'm still just mulling this over. Goodness!!
I have John Shortt (the Barrister b 1814) (I am a descendant of)
I know Grace Shortt survived and married Rev Robert J Wilson
William Shortt became a Reverend in New York and moved to Ontario, father of William Allaire Shortt.
Charles Shortt became a teacher lived in Ontario too.
I had Elizabeth b. 1817, Arthur Wellington b. 1816, Joseph b 1819, Thomas Spunner b 1820, Charles b 1822, William b. 1824, Mathew Charles b. 1825, Grace b. 1828, Frances 1828.
I have no idea what became of the other four.
Would be grateful for any clues.
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Dathai
I wonder are these Blackhall Shortts related to your Kilmainham Shortts ???
Tara
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Grace Shortt 1846
Tara
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John Shortt Junior possibility ???
Tara
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Jonathon Shortt 1832
Tara
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Jonathon Shortt 1832 (2)
Tara
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Was Jonathon Senior originally from Tyrone ?
Tara
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Children :
John b 1814 approx (No baptism that I can see, but later records confirm he was the son of John and Anne and that he was the eldest son ~ You are descended from)
Elizabeth 1817 (Must have died in childhood based on later records)
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e680a30174634
Thomas 1820
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/610f820174808
Joseph 1819
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/94efd90174736
Charles 1822 (Became a teacher and lived in Ontario)
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/00293d0175016
William 1824 (Became a Rev in New York and moved to Ontario)
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/38446f0175103
Matthew Charles 1825
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/866c350175160
Grace 1827 (No baptism found ~ Married Rev Robert J Wilson)
Frances 1828 (Presumed died in childhood based on later records)
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/9519da0175282
That's all the children that I can see for now !
Tara
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This chap was born in Offaly BUT I presume he was related as his full name was Joseph Henry ANTISELL Shortt.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Glasthule/Spencer_Villas/1321832/
His will
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014914/005014914_00529.pdf
Tara
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His widow in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_West/Parkview_Avenue/52779/
Tara
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Somebody doing Joseph Henry Antisell Shortts tree.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=benhollister&id=P21324
Tara
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Yikes
This book says that Jonathon Shortt and Anne Antisell were cousins :o
http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/mary-elizabeth-tisdel-wyman-135/the-genealogy-of-the-descendants-of-lawrence-and-mary-antisell-of-norwich-and-wi-629/page-15-the-genealogy-of-the-descendants-of-lawrence-and-mary-antisell-of-norwich-and-wi-629.shtml
Tara
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http://community.ancestry.com/ViewUserContent.aspx?uid=01c3982b-0001-0000-0000-000000000000&pp=6&type=photo
I think you have most of this already !
Tara
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Alfred Shortt
Tara
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Was Jonathon Senior originally from Tyrone ?
Tara
What makes you ask that?
If so, their g/stone is on IGP in Mt Jerome!
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/1headstones/mt-jerome101.txt
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/mt-jerome-101/target85.html
http://search.freefind.com/find.html?si=13812782&pid=r&n=0&_charset_=UTF-8&bcd=%C3%B7&query=Shortt&s=dublinstones
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Hi Hallmark
Question was asked based on that same headstone find ;D
Tara
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Hi Hallmark
Question was asked based on that same headstone find ;D
Tara
Grrr... ;D
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Hi Tara and everyone else,
Someone in the previous generation was from Tyrone. That's them in Mount Jerome. I've had more success finding the others, in the previous generation because I found a Deed in the registry of deeds I think that's probably my tree on ancestry. I didn't have some of these newspaper articles though. What happened to them and how they survived will probably remain a mystery. I think I have found everything I'll ever find and then that Orbit comes up! Fabulous!!
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Yes I haven't been able to figure that out exactly I know the father of Jonathan was Charles Shortt and his wife was described as a Mrs Grace Gilbert, and Anna Maria Antisell's mother was Eliza Gilbert so I am thinking it was that relationship. Although it described her as Mrs Grace Gilbert, maybe Gilbert was her maiden name. Another mystery!
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http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014899/005014899_00391.pdf