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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: pnoenix on Sunday 03 July 05 15:17 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I don't know Suffolk at all, and wondered if someone who knew the area can help.
On the 1851 census of Old Newton John Clamp's wife, Hannah (nee Rice) gives her place of birth as Wyverstone. (I have not actually seen this, but have been given a transcription from a cousin).
I have been trying to find the birth of Hannah Rice on the IGI and there is one which matches the year in Wetherden. On the map Old Newton, Wetherden and Wyverstone are all fairly close to one another, although Wetherden is closer to O.N. Is it possible that Wyverstone parish would come under Wetherden?
If not, back to the drawing board. :(
Grateful for any ideas,
Diane
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Hi
Have you tried
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/
It should help with Suffolk parishes etc.
Anne
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The IGI has two relevant entries for Wetherden, both for baptism of children to parents Isaac Rice and Mary Francis. One is Ann Rice 21 October 1781 and the other Hannah Rice 9 August 1794. Both are patron submissions, rather than controlled extractions from parish registers, so whichever one you think is yours needs checking in the parish register before you believe it.
Christening in Wetherden is not inconsistent with birth at Wyverstone. They are two separate events, and families didn't always use the nearest church. It could be a matter of convenience, or preference, or earlier family ties with a minister or a church. And the two places are only 4 miles apart.
Then maybe what Hannah put in the 1851 census is what she thought, rather than knew. At that time people weren't often asked where they were born, and they usually didn't keep records to tell them. So if say Hannah was born in Wyverstone, but the family moved to Wetherden when she was very young, maybe she remembered being brought up in Wetherden and thought she was born there.
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Thanks for your replies.
You're right Hugh. It looks like the only way to be sure may be to somehow, sometime look at the parish registers. I have been told that John and Hannah married on 15 May 1812 at Old Newton, so maybe the marriage entry will give more details.
Looks like I may have to persuade my husband we need a short break in Suffolk!
Thanks again,
Diane
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Hi Diane
Or......you could try the Suffolk Surnames List! There are volunteers offering lookups from the Old Newton and the Wyverstone Registers!
Marriage records at this date do not give much information however. You will not have father's names, but you will be able to find out their maritial status, and whether or not they were "of the parish". You will also have marriage witnesses.
http://www.suffolk-surnames-list.co.uk/
Rick :)
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Thank you very much, Rick.
I've just submitted a request on that site :D
Diane
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I am new to rootschat and I am truly excited to see that you are related to my clamp line! John Clamp and Hannah are my great great great grandparents.
John Clamp
Ephraim Clamp
Herbert Clamp
Blanche Clamp was my grandmother.
How are you related to this line?
I have a photo of John Clamp if you don't already have one.
Would love to chat,
Sam
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Hi Sam,
This is exciting.
I have sent you a personal message.
Diane
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Hello Sam......
Are you there? I did send you a personal message. Thought you might reply. ???
Diane
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Hi All,
An H.E. Clamp has popped up in my inquiries into British Secret Service activities in the 1890s.
I would like to establish whether or not it is this person -
Herbert Ephraim Clamp, poet and US newspaper columnist–
Birth: Jan. 14, 1861, Suffolk, England
Census 1881: Grocer and Draper, Bildeston, Suffolk
Marriage: June 1882, [Ipswich], Agnes Sarah Ann Miller
Death: Mar. 16, 1911, New York, USA
Any help would be much appreciated.
Regards,
Simon
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Simon,
H. E. Clamp came to the US in 1886.
Correct year of death is 1910.
Regards,
Sam
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Hi Sam,
Many thanks for the correction and extra information.
As far as I can ascertain, H.E. Clamp wrote just one volume of poetry: "The Pleasures of Human Life, and Other Poems", published by Joseph Merrell, Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk [1877]. I think the volume was privately printed.
Regards,
Simon