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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: robtaz on Saturday 20 December 14 15:32 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help, my 3rd Gt Grandparents had an ice cream shop in Craigiehall Street near Govan Road around about 1881. I have been trying to find the name and exact address of the shop, would anyone know where I might be able to find this information.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Hi Robtaz,
Try the Post Office Directory for Glasgow For 1880-81. (http://www.archive.org/stream/postofficeannual188081gla#page/).
Regards
Istrice
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Hi Rob
From Istrice's link for that year, nothing shows for the address you mention www.archive.org/stream/postofficeannual188081gla#page/602/mode/2up
Not sure if in the few posts before on your Bennet Tazzar, did you have his census entries in the Glasgow area? Can see this one for 1881:
Bennett Tazzar 42 Lodging House Keeper b. Italy
Rose Ann Tazzar 17
Bennett Tazzar Jr. 15
Mary Tazzar 12
Dominick Tazzar 9
Address: 12 Princes St. & 46 Saltmarket, Glasgow Blackfriars
....a good 30+lodgers at that address.
What is the source for the address and business at Craigiehall Street?
A wider list of PO directories for Glasgow here www.nls.uk/family-history/directories/post-office/index.cfm?place=Glasgow Entries indexed both by surname and/or address in the directories. You may find something before or after 1881.
Monica :)
Added: Sorry, know you have all his stuff from posts elsewhere. Just wanted to add a census entry here on RC that may help. From elsewhere, you mention that he had moved to Coatbridge 1881-1923 where he had lodging houses on Main Street.
Monica
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Thank you Istrice.
Hi Monica thank you for your reply
I got the information on the business from the Glasgow Herald Archive. It says that Ann Thomson tenant of an ice cream shop in Craigiehall Street was fined for selling liquor. Ann Thomson was the estranged wife of Bennett Tazzar, I know that at one time Bennett and Ann did have an ice cream shop in Glasgow.
On the 1885 valuation rolls Bennett is down as the proprietor of a lodging house on main St, and Ann is a lodging house keeper on Main St on the 1881 census living with their 2 younger children.
On censuses and valuation rolls Ann swaps between her married name and maiden name even though Bennett's name is on the same document.
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On censuses and valuation rolls Ann swaps between her married name and maiden name even though Bennett's name is on the same document.
Rob, in Scotland, women never lost the legal use of their maiden names. This is a really useful thing for people researching in Scotland as it can be much easier to trace married women as their maiden names were often recorded on their death certs, gravestones, census entries etc. Very common, although less so towards the end of the 19th C, to see family surname census entries with husband and children and wife with her maiden surname.
What year was the Glasgow Herald article?
Monica
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Hi Monica,
I think that might be from July 5th 1881 "Ann Thomson or Gibson, a widow, tenant of an ice cream shop in Craighall Street was accused of selling excisable liquors on Sunday..."
Jen
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Thanks Jen :)
Rob, how does that fit with what you have found? Obviously Tazzar (and variants) can't be connected to the names of this story, unless some info is not included. What do you think?
Monica
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Hi Monica,
That sounds right, on my article it is spelt Craigiehall St not Craighall St, she was fined at the Plantation police court Govan.
I did not know that on some Scottish documents that married women also used their maiden names, thank you for that, that could help in my research.
Rob
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Hi Monica,
I did not know that on some Scottish documents that married women also used their maiden names, thank you for that, that could help in my research.
Rob
On legal documents or forms in Scotland you will find a married woman described with First Name - Maiden Name and with her married name added as OR (even today)
(as in the quote you supplied Ann Thomson or Gibson )
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Always helps so much, doesn't it, Falkyrn.
The 'Ann Thomson or Gibson' mentioned by Jen and you now....Rob, these names don't fit do they for Ann Thomson, estranged wife of Bennett Tazzar...or do they? Why did you think she, or with husband, ran the ice cream shop in Craigiehall Street around the 1880s? Not understanding where the Gibson surname, mentioned in the article for that Ann Thomson, comes in?
Monica