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Title: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: jack alan fletcher on Tuesday 16 December 14 17:31 GMT (UK)
Hi All

Just a quick one to see if I can get any further in my family history search as ive drawn a blank at the 1871 Census. I have traced back to Mansfield Fletcher 37 Deane, Bedfordshire Head Travelling Tinman Alice Fletcher 38 Mortimore, Berkshire, England Wife in the 1871 census who would have been my x4 great grandfather. I found this  information on this site http://www.gypsyjib.com/page/Fletcher+Family?t=anon. I am proud to be a Fletcher and to have Romany Gypsy ancestry but would love to go back further if anyone knows anything or can recommend anything that be a great help.

Regards Jack Fletcher
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 16 December 14 18:08 GMT (UK)
Hi

Welcome to rootschat  :)

Could this be his marriage registration from freebmd  http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Marriage December qtr 1860   
Mansfield Fletcher       
Alice Roberts        
Wantage reg district    2c   639
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 16 December 14 18:10 GMT (UK)
Probably his christening

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JM2D-G26
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: jack alan fletcher on Tuesday 16 December 14 18:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosie That's absolutely brilliant and yes it definitely would appear that is him. Wantage is literally a stones throw from West Hanney and even better it gives his father and mothers name aswell
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 16 December 14 18:20 GMT (UK)
Wantage reg district covers West Hanney

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wantage.html
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: pinefamily on Tuesday 16 December 14 21:13 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat.
You might find some helpful tips and advice on the the Travellers board on here.
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: whiteout7 on Wednesday 17 December 14 04:36 GMT (UK)
http://rtfhs.org.uk/the_rtfhs_marriage_index/

ROBERTS and FLETCHER Longcot, Berkshire, 18 April 1892 Job Roberts/aged 24/Bachelor/Labourer/son of John Roberts/Hawker Mabel Fletcher/aged 22/Spinster/daughter of Mansfield Fletcher/Hawker
Job and Mabel both sign X
Witnesses: Thomas Rose [signs] and Matilda Roberts [signs X]

Mansfield Fletcher's daughters marriage, do you think his mothers name is also Mabel (not Mabet?)
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 17 December 14 06:58 GMT (UK)
This christening at Winslow, Buckinghamshire in 1837 looks like a sibling  :-\

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJXG-SHN

In 1851 they are at Mill Hill Keysoe, Bedfordshire  ;D
H0107/1751 folio 28 page 23
Mable Fletcher - Widow - 52 -living in a cart - intinerant tinker bn Chawlbury, Oxford
Edward - son- 18 - bn Cheesely, Bucks
Ann - dtr- 17-bn Stagsden, Bedfordshire
Manfred -son - 16 - bn Dean, Bedfordshire
Marenne - dtr - 14 - bn Winslow, Buckinghamshire

Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 17 December 14 07:08 GMT (UK)
1861 - Persons not in House/ still living in Keysoe  - RG0/985 folio 52 p36

Mabel Fletcher  - head - widow - 65 bn Oxfordshire -Taveler in van with tinware
Mirraney Fletcher - dtr- unm -24 - bn Wislow, Buckinghamshire
George Cox-Servt- 14 -bn Arlington, Middlesex (probably Harlington  ;)  )  occ Tinker  Servant  Tin Ware Dealer
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 17 December 14 07:24 GMT (UK)
This may be Stephens death  :-\

Death June qtr 1841 
Stephen Fletcher   
Bedford registration district  6   27

If this is him he probably died before the census which took place in June 1841

ADDED National burial index has this - Stephen Fletcher buried at Keysoe 28 March 1841 age 35 
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 17 December 14 07:30 GMT (UK)
1871  RG10/1410 f26 p8 - Haddenham, Buckinghamshire
(Waggon & Horses)
Mabel Fletcher   75 bn Cholesbury, Oxfordshire occ Hawker
Mirianney Fletcher   34 Winslow, Buckinghamshire  occ Hawker

Mabels death
March qtr 1873 
Mabel Fletcher    age    75    
Aylesbury    3a   344
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: jack alan fletcher on Wednesday 17 December 14 12:26 GMT (UK)
This is all fascinating and cant thank you all enough for helping with this and just highlights there are some decent people in the world still. Im fairly knew to all this so do records get difficult to trace/ find before a certain date?
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 17 December 14 13:04 GMT (UK)
I have not been lucky enough to have Romanys in my family but you may find some info on this rootschat board  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/travelling-people/

Strangely, I do however have tenuous connections to Keysoe - My grandad was born there in 1863  ;D

Any problems you have just post on rootschat, it is a really friendly site and there is normally someone that can help.

As Mabel was born in Oxfordshire she may have married there, I don't think there is a lot online for this county though I am probably wrong.  It might be worthwhile asking for a lookup for Stephens marriage to Mabel as many people have indexes etc.

Rosie
Title: Re: West Hanney,Fletchers Romany Gypsy
Post by: jack alan fletcher on Wednesday 17 December 14 19:51 GMT (UK)
Yes im really pleased with how helpful everyone is on this site. I have quite a lot of Romany in my blood line not just from the Fletcher side but my nans who are the Kettlewells from Driffield in Yorkshire and my mums side who are Stallards from the Faringdon area