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I'm looking for an obituary notice for Kathleen Owers Owen. She passed away Dec. 8th, 1992 in Glenavon Rest Home, Granville Park, Aughton, Ormskirk, Lancashire. Kathleen was the widow of Thomas Edwin Owen of Ormskirk. I'm trying to find if Thomas and Kathleen had any children. They married in 1920. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dorothy
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Was Owers the maiden name of Kathleen? If so, FreeBMD does not list any registered births.
All the best
Philip
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Hi,
Marriage ref from FreeBMD:
Thomas E Owen DecQ 1920 Ormskirk 8b 1475 Bride: Kathleen O Shaw
To search for any births in England/Wales use FreeBMD with surname Owen and mother's surname Shaw:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Was Kathleen a well known person in Ormskirk? If not it is unlikely that there would be an obituary; possibly a death or funeral notice but not many people do that nowadays.
Nanny Jan
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Thank you for the help. Kathleen Owers Owen's maiden name was Matthews. Kathleen was first married to Alfred Shaw here in Vancouver, Canada in 1913. Alfred and Kate returned to England in 1914 and Alfred died in 1915. Kate then married Thomas Edwin Owen in 1920. I don't believe she was well known so there probably isn't an obituary notice. Complicated family......both Kathleen and Thomas immigrated to Vancouver in 1910 on the same ship.....they must have kept in touch because after the war (Thomas joined the Canadian Army) he went back to England and married Kathleen. There are five children listed on the BMD site for a father Owen and mother Matthews but without sending for the certificates I haven't been able to determine if they are the children of Thomas and Kathleen. I was hoping a obituary notice might give some clues. Thanks again for your help.
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There are no births in the Ormskirk area so they might not be their children. :-\
Nanny Jan
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Thank you kindly, the births were registered in West Derby so it's most likely they are not the children of Thomas and Kathleen.
Dorothy
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I cannot see an Owen/Mathews marriage in the uk between 1920 and 1940 to account for the births
so I would not discount those births yet.
I will look at what area west Derby covers.
Mike
Edit. Aintree and kirby are not far from aughton
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Hi Mike,
Kathleen Owers Matthews married Thomas Edwin Owen in 1920 under the surname Shaw. She was 26 years old and a widow.
Dorothy
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Hi
There is a will and given the Probate amount it might be worth getting a copy of it. From this link
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills (https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills)
select Wills and Probate 1858 to 1996 then
enter Surname - Owen then
enter Year of Death - 1993 (I know she died 1992 but Probate was Feb 1993
then keep selecting Next Page until you get to her entry.
Andy
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Andy,
Thank you so much.....I'm going to send for the probate. Wow....Thanks again.
Dorothy
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Great find Andy! :)
Nanny Jan
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I cannot see an Owen/Mathews marriage in the uk between 1920 and 1940 to account for the births
so I would not discount those births yet.
I will look at what area west Derby covers.
Mike
Edit. Aintree and kirby are not far from aughton
I did not make it clear, I was looking for posible parents for the west Derby children other than yours, I could not find any.
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I knw the area very well and was suggesting that there were desirable places to live which were very close to Ormskirk but came within West Derby registration district.
The Will will most likely answer your questions. :)
Mike