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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: clockwork codger on Friday 19 October 12 21:47 BST (UK)
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I hope someone can help me and my mum.
We are looking for a death of William Bentley, who died on 8th May, 1874 at Hednesford, aged 28 yrs. He was a pit sinker, he died of intercussession of urine, and W Kirby was present at his death.
He is my great x3 grandfather, at the time, it is believed he had 3 sons (my great x2 grandfather being one of them), and that a year after he died, his widow Susan Cook(e) remarried, and the same W. Kirby was a witness at her wedding. From this marriage, a further 2 children were born.
Many thanks
Dave E
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First of all a very warm welcome to Rootschat.Are you looking for the death certificate or do you hold this already?Or are you looking for reports of an incident at the colliery where he worked?
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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We have a copy of the death certificate, just looking for any reports on the incident.
Dave E
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Which pit did he work at Dave?Were there any more killed at the same time?
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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I'm afraid I can't tell you any more than that. Trying to find out more about his life, I know he was a station porter when he got married at 21. The rumour that his son told was that he was shot by an escaped convict on the railway!!! As told to my nan by her father, however he was only 5 when his father died, and due to his job description and what I can't find out, seems highly unlikely. He had 3 sons, William born 1868, Arthur born 1870 (great great grandad), and Alfred born 1871. They were born in Doxey.
Dave E
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my father was a miner,he died at 64yrs.due to pneumoconiosis,I would like to find out which pit he worked at,I imagine it would be in the local Aldridge/walsall wood . I wonder if anyone has any idea if there are any records,such as record cards etc.held anywhere?
He had a brother,he also went down the pit,he was injured,and was taken to local hospital on a cart(1903),he died from his injuries,he was just a lad.I have a report of the accident from the local paper which I found in our local history centre,it makes grim reading.
apparently pit records are quite difficult to locate,or don,t even exist! so I don,t hold out much hope,but thought I would give it a go! thanks,
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i am trying to find the grave of hugh doorbar the mine rescuer who lost his life in the minnie pit explosion..... ive tried everywhere......
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A search for Hugh Doorbar on findmypast.com index to British Newspapers
1710-1950 gives 7 hits.
Regards,
Paul
Tittensor One-Name study website: www.tittensor.com
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Welcome to Rootschat,he isn't listed among the nine reported to have lost the lives in the Minnie Disaster of 1915.
http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/cms/document/1914_18.pdf
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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hugh doorbar. was the only mine rescuer killed trying to rescue people in the minnie pit mine. he did recuse afew... but when he went in . again his breathing aparatus failed. and he died...... ive been lucky to find. hes buried in kidsgrove churchyard.... so thanks everyone.
im doing a project for my husband. who is very interested in coalmining in staffordshire....
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Its a very worthwhile project.Its very important that in the words of the song;The story it shall never grow old.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Abstract for Wills and Admin
Hugh Doorbar of Sprink Farm, Biddulph, Staffordshire died 10th November 1905. Probate 10th May to William Doorbar, collier, Mary Bailey wife of Henry and Charlotte Armitt wife of Thomas.
It is possible he may be at rest in the Biddulph area. I will keep a look out for that unusual name
regards
Alf
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CANNOCK CEMETERY
Osborne BOTTOM, killed in the Mid Cannock Colliery, 11th April 1938 aged 45. He is at rest with his wife in Cannock Cemetery,
Prior to employment at this colliery he was Private 51827 of the 3rd South Staffordshire Regiment. He joined up on the 10th December 1915 was posted to the Army Reserve awaiting call up. He gave his home address as 147, Hendesford Road, Cannock, aged 25 years and 7 months and worked as stallman in W Cannack Colliery Co Ltd, Hednesford. His next of kin was his father, George of 92, West Hill Hednesford (his mother was called Ellen), and later his wife, Elizabeth May nee Patrick whom he married 10th June 1916 at Leicester and lived at 45 Hednesford Road, Cannock. They had one issue, Frank Leonard born 19th January 1918. On the 6th June 1918 he was called to the colours at Walsall. On the 9th December 1918 he was discharged from the army at Ripon to join his wife and son at 10, Upper Kent Street, Leicester. He only served in England which included his time in the Army reserve. His date of birth was the 10th May 1892.
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I want to thank everyone for all the great information about Colliery Deaths in Staffordshire. I have just found out that 4 members of my family were killed in the Minnie Pit disaster in January 1918 - I'm sure that other families has similar, if not worse, tradegys in their families - but it makes you realise how hard lives were in these coalmining areas.
Thanks again.
Val
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A great source of information, I was hoping to find more about John Rhodes, especially any reports that may shed some light on any family members.
(Free Reg )
Tipton. Church St. Martin Staffordshire
John Rhodes Burial 24 Jun 1855 born 1808 Age 47 Abode Horseley Heath
(Mining Accidents) - RHODES John 22/06/1855
Colliery: Hange. Owner: Trustees of John Round. Tipton: Stafford Fall of coal. 4 killed.
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Unfortunately Annette,the main Mining Disaster Index only shows Disasters where there were five or more deaths.
http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/disasters/index.html
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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If anyone is interested the Chesterton Mining museum at Apedale near Chesterton, Staffordshire. Has a great deal of detail on the Mini Pit disaster including a detail map reconstruction of the accident made at the time by investigators showing the locations of the bodies of the dead miners and other details (dead horses, fallen pit props, etc.). It is quite harrowing but does impress upon one the scale of the disaster.
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Unfortunately Annette,the main Mining Disaster Index only shows Disasters where there were five or more deaths.
http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/disasters/index.html
Regards
William Russell Jones.
http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/database/result/20488.html
That is where I found John ;)
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Yes he shows in a search for an individual.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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John Rhodes b abt.1811 was my 3x Great Grandfather but the history is so complex as his daughter Jane Rhodes was born in July 1855 and on her wedding cert mentions her father as Edward Rhodes (who was Johns brother)
This thread has made sense now as to why she put Edward on it, therefore I am assuming that it was because she never knew John.
Thank you for the info
Si
A great source of information, I was hoping to find more about John Rhodes, especially any reports that may shed some light on any family members.
(Mining Accidents) - RHODES John 22/06/1855
Colliery: Hange. Owner: Trustees of John Round. Tipton: Stafford Fall of coal. 4 killed.