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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: marymac72 on Saturday 06 December 14 18:07 GMT (UK)
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James Ferguson was my Great Grandfather. I would like to know more about him and a bit further back. His father was also James Ferguson and his mother Anne McDiarmid. They came from Govan in Glasgow i believe. My Great Grandfather was a professional organist i have been told. I would love to hear from anyone who shares the same family or anyone who can help me further.
Thank you
Mary ;)
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Hi Mary
Have you worked further back from James Ferguson and Anne McDiarmid? Their marriage as you know would help you with their parents' details etc https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTBV-4ZF
Mary, there is a family tree on a/try for this line, is it yours? If not, it is likely connected family. Maybe son Duncan's.
You likely have censuses, but just adding the 1891 entry:
James Ferguson 43 Friendly Society Collector & Factor b. Glasgow
Annie Ferguson 39 b. Ireland
Agnes Ferguson 19, Weaver & Music Teacher https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ75-4XX
James Ferguson 16 Engineer's Apprentice
Marion Ferguson 12
Thomas Wm Ferguson 9 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTXC-4XS
John Ferguson 5
Duncan F F Ferguson 3 possible... https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC7F-9SH
Andrew Ferguson 1
Address: 70 McLellan St, Govan
One other possible daughter, Margaret, shows here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQDX-4VP
With sister Agnes showing as both a weaver and music teacher, likely music would feature in the family and your James also got involved in music?
Monica :)
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The family are at 697 Govan Rd in 1901. Andrew last born to the family it seems. Your James, aged 26 and a house painter. However, likely as Agnes in 1891, James being known to be a professional organist may have come in later years or been an additional source of income along with his trade of being a house painter. Father James Snr also showed as a house painter in 1901.
Have you followed his through to 1911 and marriage, children and death certs to see what shows for him?
Monica
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Hi Monica,
That's wonderful, i do have further back ! My GG Grandad James, his parents Anne McDiarmid and James Ferguson. His parents were James Ferguson and Agnes Turner !! But my GG Grandad James wife GG Grandmother Elizabeth Boyle McLaren, her father was Duncan so they must have shared a home.
You're a star finding that x
Hi Mary
Have you worked further back from James Ferguson and Anne McDiarmid? Their marriage as you know would help you with their parents' details etc https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTBV-4ZF
Mary, there is a family tree on a/try for this line, is it yours? If not, it is likely connected family. Maybe son Duncan's.
You likely have censuses, but just adding the 1891 entry:
James Ferguson 43 Friendly Society Collector & Factor b. Glasgow
Annie Ferguson 39 b. Ireland
Agnes Ferguson 19, Weaver & Music Teacher https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ75-4XX
James Ferguson 16 Engineer's Apprentice
Marion Ferguson 12
Thomas Wm Ferguson 9
John Ferguson 5
Duncan F F Ferguson 3
Andrew Ferguson 1
Address: 70 McLellan St, Govan
One other possible daughter, Margaret, shows here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQDX-4VP
With sister Agnes showing as both a weaver and music teacher, likely music would feature in the family and your James also got involved in music?
Monica :)
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Have you worked back on the censuses of James Snr. to flesh out his family a little? Annie McDermid might be trickier if she was the only one from her family over in Scotland from Ireland (always hard if that is the case).
Monica
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No i haven't got that far as yet, i had started this a while back and got a little lost and gave up. A new addititon to the family has started me off again. I will go down the route you have advised :) The music connection is funny, my father was very interested in music as was my brother and three of my nephews are musicians in bands. To the best of my knowledge, more family ended up in Australia and one became quite well known for her singing. It's amazing what family research discovers isn't it !!
Have you worked back on the censuses of James Snr. to flesh out his family a little? Annie McDermid might be trickier if she was the only over in Scotland from Ireland (always hard if that is the case).
Monica
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... It's amazing what family research discovers isn't it !!
That is what makes it all the more fun...good or bad really.
Let me see if I can find anything more going back for them and will post if I do.
Monica :)
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Do you have the name of Annie McDermid's parents from her certs?
Monica
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I do, Anne McDiarmids parents were Thomas McDiarmid born i believe in 1825 and her Mum was Margaret Dillon also born i think in 1825 and that is as far back as i have managed to find. Thanks for your help Monica, it's very much appreciated x
Do you have the name of Annie McDermid's parents from her certs?
Monica
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I think this is an early 1851 census entry for James with family here - everyone born in Glasgow:
James Ferguson 30 wood turner
Agnes Ferguson 30
John Ferguson 5 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1WM-FX8
James Ferguson 3
Address: 82 Oswald Street, Glasgow/Calton
Looks like there were only 2 living children from the marriage possibly? From 1861:
James Ferguson 40 Wood Turner Journeyman
Agnes Ferguson 40 b. Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
John Ferguson 15 Machine Wood Turner
James Ferguson 13 Power Loom Web Twister
Address: 68 Main Street, Glasgow/Calton
Monica
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It's great as now i know he had the brother too ! I wish i knew how to go this in depth like you're doing now. I'll do some research and will look deeper into it. I have to go for now as the hubby has some work to do online (he's a photographer) I will get more done on this over the weekend. I will let you know how i get on if that's ok. Thank you so much for this evening, you've been a wonderful help. x
I think this is an early 1851 census entry for James with family here - everyone born in Glasgow:
James Ferguson 30 wood turner
Agnes Ferguson 30
John Ferguson 5 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1WM-FX8
James Ferguson 3
Address: 82 Oswald Street, Glasgow/Calton
Looks like there were only 2 living children from the marriage possibly? From 1861:
James Ferguson 40 Wood Turner Journeyman
Agnes Ferguson 40 b. Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
John Ferguson 15 Machine Wood Turner
James Ferguson 13 Power Loom Web Twister
Address: 68 Main Street, Glasgow/Calton
Monica
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Real life always takes over Mary... ;)
Monica
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Having had no luck in the past trying to discover information about my Great Grandfather James Ferguson, i am hoping a fresh search may come up with some answers. My GGrandfather was born 12th Feb 1875 to James & Anne Ferguson (McDiarmid) from Brigeton in Glasgow.
My GGrandfather married Elizabeth McLaren on 18th July 1902 where they both seem to reside at 54 Fairfield Street in Govan Glasgow.
I've heard many stories of James but would love to discover what is fact and what is fiction. I know he was professional on the organ and possibly played in concert. I also have been told her studied at Cambridge and taught at Oxford. However i find him in records as a housepainter so that information has a massive question mark over it.
I aquired his picture some years ago and have been drawn to discovering more about his life ever since.
Hitting the post button with crossed fingers :)
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I note there were about 5 James Ferguson's born in the Glasgow area in 1875 and a further 9 with a middle name. I presume you have the census returns 1881 - 1911?
You can also check the Valuation Rolls on Scotland's People up to 1935, that will at least give some information, such as occupation.
Colin
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