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Title: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: VAT on Wednesday 03 December 14 14:04 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone

Trying to find the baptism of Richard Poultney b Shropshire c1811, exact place unknown
Father William POULTNEY, engineer

This  is what I have found so far ... .   

Children  with Rebekah BIRD ..... Sarah 1838 (d1844), Rebekah 1839 (d1844), Rachel 1840, John Abraham 1841 (d1844), Thirza 1843, Edward 1844 (d1845), Edwin 1848,

Children with Ann  BUMFORD    ..... Richard 1850, Sarah A 1852, Hannah 1854, Robert W 1856, Susan 1860, Matilda 1862.

1837 Jan marriage Rebekah BIRD at Madeley , no age given

1841 Census Stirchley  forgeman,  aged 36 (should be 30?) Shropshire, born in county

1847 Death of Rebekah,  burial at Stirchley

1848 Sept  remarriage, widower, forgeman, to Ann BUMFORD at Stirchley, full age,
father William POULTNEY, engineer

1851 Census  Dawley, puddler, aged 39 b Salop

1861 Census Glasgow Scotland, iron puddler, aged 49, born England

1864 May Death in Sheffield, aged 53 Bridge End, Attercliffe
Burial at Burngreave Cem, Sheffield  & noted on M.I. at St James  in Stirchley.

Ann POULTNEY remarried William THOMPSON & have all data on that 1871 onwards.

Have tried under various spellings POLTNEY, PULTNEY etc etc

Does anyone know anything about the POULTNEY family please?

Couple of public trees on Ancestry are no help

Any suggestions as to where a possible Baptism for Richard may be found?

Are there Methodist registers that may not be on FMPast?

VAT

Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 03 December 14 15:55 GMT (UK)
Who were the witnesses to his first marriage
Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: VAT on Wednesday 03 December 14 16:35 GMT (UK)
Hi rosie99

Richard OWEN and ANN FLETCHER

are the witnesses

VAT
Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: conahy calling on Wednesday 03 December 14 16:42 GMT (UK)
http://poultney.rhodesiana.com/family/poultney/poultney1.html#top

Some earlier variations of the name on this link
Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: madeley on Wednesday 03 December 14 18:56 GMT (UK)
Hi is it possible the name could be pountney as that is an old local name??.
Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: VAT on Wednesday 03 December 14 19:06 GMT (UK)
madeley

Thanks for that idea, it is Poultney but have been checking under Pountney and anything else I can think of as well.

conahy calling

Yes thanks have looked at this site before but can't make any connections.

VAt

Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 04 December 14 16:36 GMT (UK)
One to consider
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N8YQ-G7W
Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: VAT on Thursday 04 December 14 19:04 GMT (UK)
Thanks rosie99

He says his father is William on 2nd marriage certificate and always says Shropshire as birth county so I think this is probably not the right one

Just wish he'd been a bit more specific as to where in Shrophire  ::)

VAT
Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Thursday 04 December 14 19:45 GMT (UK)
1841 - in Hollinswood [?] Shifnal district.

Will Poultney    60 - engineer
Hannah Poultney    55
John Poultney    20
Hannah Poultney    15
Mary Poultney    13
   
HO107, 909, 24, 2

1851 - again in Hollingswood

William Portney    72 - b Willy, Salop. Engine worker
Hannah Portney    66 - b Brace Meole, Salop
Edward Groom    37 - visitor
Hannah Groom    29 - visitor, b Shifnal [I suspect this is their daughter]
   
HO107, 1987, 300, 37

There's a good match for John from 1841 on 1851, place of birth Shifnal. Also on 1851 a Sarah Poultney b Hollinswood c1818. SO I would guess Richard could be from the same place?
Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Thursday 04 December 14 20:05 GMT (UK)
Or maybe a wider range, as these look to be baptisms of other children of the couple, with various places involved

Anne Pountney         18 Mar 1810    Meole Brace
William Pourtney         25 May 1814    Meole Brace
John Poultney         10 Nov 1818    The Coal Pit Bank Wesleyan, Wombridge, Shropshire
Samuel Poultney         25 Dec 1818    Shifnal, Shropshire, England
Hannah Poultney         10 Apr 1822    The Coal Pit Bank Wesleyan, Wombridge
Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 04 December 14 22:22 GMT (UK)
William Poultny
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage:   24 May 1818   Dawley-Magna, Shropshire, England
spouse:   Hannah Deakin

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AWilliam~%20%2Bsurname%3Apoultney~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3AShropshire~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1810-1830~

same page

Name:   Richard Poultney
Spouse's Name:   Ann Bumford
Event Date:   28 Aug 1848
Event Place:   Stirchley, Shropshire, England
Father's Name:   William Poultney
Spouse's Father's Name:   Richard Bumford


Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 04 December 14 22:27 GMT (UK)
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Willey.html

1779  Apr. 4. William, s. of Benjamin Powney & Sarah.  bap.   

Title: Re: Richard POULTNEY - Iron Puddler
Post by: VAT on Saturday 06 December 14 14:05 GMT (UK)
Thank you all -  will look into your suggestions

VAT