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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Marcia Hay on Monday 01 December 14 08:06 GMT (UK)
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My great grandmother was Sarah Jane Ludlow (nee Minor/miner) born in 1852 Queensland. There is some dispute as to her legitimacy. Her father was Sterling/ Stirling Minor/Miner/ born in New York, Blackrock 1806 and died in Dunwich Queensland Australia in 1900.
On her birth certificate the mother is listed as Josephine.
I have an elderly cousin who is very ill and who is battling to find true answers about this Sterling Minor as well as Edmond Ludlow Sarah Jane's husband that he can pass on to his family.
On Sterling Minor's side there are stories of emigrating to America with his father Samuel. Sterling in whaling ships and his father fighting the indians in America. He says that Sterling came to nSW and then moved to Queensland around 1824-26 and had done all this before. he met and married. I would be so grateful for anything remotely chronological for this man and his family.
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Sterling MINER m. Margaret ROSS 29 Sept 1851 #1854/MA0770
Parish: Brisbane; Co. Stanley; Ipswich; Moreton Bay (Qld), Wesleyan Methodist
Ref: V185148 85
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NSW Gaol Entrance and Description book has Stirling Minor, born 1806, arrived 1828 on the Huron, admitted to Darlinghurst Gaol in 1854.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3710725?searchTerm=%22Stirling%20minor%22&searchLimits=
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3713439?searchTerm=%22Stirling%20minor%22&searchLimits=
Jo :)
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Many mentions, a very busy man, of interest;
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13015841?searchTerm=%22Sterling%20minor%22&searchLimits=
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13018811?searchTerm=%22Sterling%20minor%22&searchLimits=
Considering some of the other articles it is easy to see why she took off :-[
Jo
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OBITUARY. MR. E. J. LUDLOW.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/114216628?searchTerm="LUDLOW"&searchLimits=l-state=Queensland
A very old and respected resident of Ipswich, Mr. Edmund John Ludlow, Marion-street, Booval, died last Saturday at the age of 89 years. He was born in Bristol (England), and educated at Eton College. He and his brother Henry left England. . . . . . . .
Essie
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Can you give all the details on the birth certificate you have for Sarah Jane 1854, also the marriage certificate1873, Edmund John LUDLOW.
NSW BDM birth
2800 / 1853 V185332800 71 MINOR Harriett parents Sterling / Margaret
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NSW BDM has marriage
STIRLING A MINN MARRIED MARY BARRETT AT LKRoman Catholic Maitland area REF # 319/1839 V1839319 123
QLD BDM has these two births SAME YEAR?
1854 BBP2310 Edward, FATHER Sterling Minor, MOTHER Mary Barret
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1854 BBP2082 Harriett, FATHER Sterling Minor, MOTHER Margaret
Neil
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There is a public tree on Ancestry that has the baptism record for Edward Minor s/o Stirling and Mary Barrett, he was born in 1845, baptised in 1846, although the birth doesn't appear to have been registered until 1854.
Jo ;)
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There is a NSW BDM record of the Baptism of Edward MINOR in 1845 ref # 426/1845 V1845426 63
I imagine that it was in Queensland as it was still a part of NSW at that time, (separation 1859) so a mirrored record exists in that state also. SEE: BBP2310 in 1854
Birth records did not start in NSW until 1856.
Neil
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Hi,
The Qld Early Pioneers Index has the first for Sterling Minor as 20th January 1844 with a reference number. Hopefully I will be going to the Brisbane State Library on Friday and I'll see if I can check this reference on microfilm.
There are also other references up to 1856.
Gerry
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From QLD BDM, and refining time frame -
BBP 2310 1854 MINOR Edward b. 14 Aug 1845
BBP 2082 1854 MINOR Harriett b. 19 Dec 1853
Tree online has
2154/1871 DAVIS Christopher m. MINNER Harriett FORBES
births to this couple include
13510/1877 DAVIS Sterling C M parents Christopher / Harriett HAY
same tree - death
8822/1876 MINOR Margaret E parents John / Catherine WALLSEND
that death certificate would be useful for children born to Margaret.
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Do you have a birth certificate for Sarah? That is something I have been unable to track down. Her marriage cert. and death cert. give her mother as Josephine and this is what I have been trying to track down. I'm building up quite a dosier on Sterling but getting no answers to my puzzle. I am a Ludlow descendant, Sarah and Edmund were my great grandparents.
Bette
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Hi Marcia
You also asked about Edmund John LUDLOW, Sarah's husband. Following on from the info given in the obit posted by Essie:
FreeBMD has this birth (Clifton is part of the City of Bristol now)
Dec qr 1849
Edmund John LUDLOW, registered Clifton Vol 11 p293
1851 at 4 Seymour? Place, Bristol
Edmond Ludlow 32, b Bristol, clerk, ale and porter brewery and xxx(illegible) malthouse
Mary Ludlow 34, b Englishcombe, Somerset
Mary Ludlow 8
Eliza Ludlow 6
Edmund John Ludlow 1
Emily Jane Ludlow 1 Mo
Ann Ancel 14, servant
1861 at Lower Easton, Bristol (seems his father has remarried - and taken a few years off his age! FreeBMD has a death registered in Clifton for a Mary LUDLOW and a marriage for Edmund LUDLOW to Grace Mendham, reg Bath 1859)
Edmund Ludlow 35, wine merchant
Grace Ludlow 25
Mary Ludlow 16
Eliza Ludlow 14
Edmund Ludlow 10
James Ludlow 8
Henry Ludlow 6/12
Emily Woolley 18, servant
John Ludlow 6, son
John Gay LUDLOW is also listed in the 1871 census still with Edmund and Grace. He marries Emma Jane HILL in 1875 in Bedminster, Somerset and comes to NSW in 1885 with his wife and 5 children. There is more information about him if you would like it. Did the brothers keep in touch?
The name "Gay" is from his (and Edmund's) mother's maiden name. Here is the marriage:
4 February, 1841 at Bristol
Edmund LUDLOW, 22, his father: John LUDLOW
Mary GAY, 22, her father: George GAY
Judith
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Sterling was born in Mohawk New York. His Father was Samuel A Miner who was a cooper, his mother was Polly, both were from Connecticut. Samuel resided in Martinsburg New York until his death in the 1860's. There is a entry for a Samuel Miner of Connecticut having enlisted in the US Army in September 1814, he was struck off the roll in December the same year as he was unfit for duty, it seems he was continually sick from September to November and never saw any 'action'. Sterling left New York on the whaling/sealing ship the Huron and after a very lengthy time at sea collecting Sperm Oil, he deserted the ship when it docked here in Australia.
Sterling is my GG/grandfather and from all accounts quite a character, My GG/grandmother Harriet 'did a runner' from him in the 1850's with her then youngest child (my G/grandfather) in a very public spat that was published in the Sydney Morning Herald.
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Hi, Sarah Jane Minor and Edmund John Ludlow are my second great grandparents. I have been researching their families and am quite confused! I would love to see your tree and clarify some information! Any help is appreciated. As I believe I May have a few mistakes from what I have gathered!
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Hello, if anyone is related to or has information on Sterling Minor/ Miner and his family could you please make contact with me jezbs@bigpond.com