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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: watermansearcher on Thursday 27 November 14 08:42 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I've just discovered probably been on the wrong track so need to start again and not make the same mistakes so I would appreciate help as I'm a rookie !
What I know is Leonard Birchall b19/9/1906 in parish of St Philips Sheffield on his attestation (but aged 31 on his marriage cert. 19/11/1938). He died 1/2/1942 whilst serving. I need to find his father.
His parents on attestation papers shown as John and Kate 68 Broad Lane(address hard to read, might be wrong and later his nok is his wife shown at one point living at c/o 63 Barnaby St Derby, again hard to read).
On marriage cert , he was in the army at the time, his father is shown as John Charles Birchall spoon and fork filer.
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His birth registration:
December qtr 1906
Ecclesall Bierlow district vol 9c, page 400
Birchall, Leonard
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Have you found him on the 1911 census?
Sorry but we can't help you with that here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=355485.0
if not try the hints and tips here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,492718.0.html
Also, be aware that each company supplying 1911 census information makes their own transcriptions so if you cant find him on one site try another.
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For 1911, try looking for Lenord Birchell, age 4! :o
(as transcribed by Ancestry!)
FindMyPast has him as Leonard Birchell.
In both cases the family are living in Ecclesall.
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Thanks, I didn't find him on 1911 before but didn't know it might be different from others. So will try again.
I had originally made assumption he was raised by an uncle as found a family with right name and dob of child, father Richard who had brother John.
Didn't get birth cert. as didn't think it would show me more than what I had and of course if a child was moved within a family that wouldn't necessarily show up any where official.
Any tips on best next steps ? Ah, Thanks K Garrad for the latest post ! Spellings are a nightmare for me !
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Actually Ancestry have transcribed it correctly :-* It's FindMyPast who have mistranscribed :-X
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Spellings are a nightmare for me !
Spellings are a nightmare for anyone involved in Family History! ::)
Spelling simply wasn't that important back then. And the further you go back; the less important spelling was!
That 1911 census is correct, because his parents match what you said earlier!
Also 6 siblings!
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Ha ha yes KGarrad!
I can see now that I need to purchase credits for 1911 in order to move forward. Thanks everyone for pinning that down for me at least now I know it's worth doing (yes, im a bit slow on the uptake lol). Hopefully that will help me with 1901 too as couldn't find John Charles and Kate there before. Cheers.
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If you're resident in England, then you could try your library or local Records Office. A lot of them have the Library edition of Ancestry, so you could look at the census records for free ;D
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Many thanks BumbleB. I will see what my library has or just put it on my Xmas list :D
I think this post is completed now, not sure how I close it? I've tried to amend the title so as not to waste anyone's time later on. Thanks again everyone, great site.
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1901 census:
Class: RG13; Piece: 4343; Folio: 82; Page: 13
Bell Hagg Road, Nether Hallam, Sheffield
Burchell, John Charles Head M 32 Spoon & Fork <?> (Cutler) b Sheffield
Burchell, Kate Wife F 27 b Nottingham
Burchell, Flortence Daughter F 7 b Sheffield
Burchell, Nellie Daughter F 6 b Sheffield
Burchell, John Charles Son M 2 b Sheffield
Burchell, Edith Daughter F 1 b Sheffield
Bolsover, Georgina Boarder F Married 31 b Sheffield
Bolsover, Florence Boarder F 9 b Sheffield
Bolsover, William Boarder M 5 b Sheffield
Bolsover, Charles Fred Boarder M 2 b Sheffield
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I think that you now have to "report to Moderator" if the thread is more than 24 hours old, so that it can be termed as "completed". :)
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Do you have John Charles, and parents, on earlier censuses?
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Hi KGarrad, wow, thanks for the 1901 info.
I haven't had chance to search yet, planning on getting a months membership of Ancestry and 1911 credits over Xmas when I will have time to look properly and enjoy the search.
Work gets in the way at the moment ! Thanks again.