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Title: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: reddesktop on Sunday 18 July 04 18:40 BST (UK)

I am looking for John henry Lloyd born c1864. Birth place varies from Cheslyn Hey or Bloxwich.
Any help appreciated.

Thank you

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Sunday 18 July 04 18:48 BST (UK)

Hi reddesktep

These are the only John Henry Lloyds that appear on the 1871 census on line - dont think any of them match you criteria:

Henry John Lloyd 24  Shoreditch Head  Shoreditch  London   
John Henry Lloyd 5  Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Son  Clifton  Gloucestershire   
John Henry Lloyd 19  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Servant  Liverpool  Lancashire   
John Henry Lloyd 1  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son  Liverpool  Lancashire   
John Henry Lloyd 6  Wombridge, Shropshire, England Son  Wombridge  Shropshire

and

John H Lloyd 9  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Boarder  Liverpool  Lancashire   
John H Lloyd 58  Nth Wales, Denbighshire, Wales Head  Liverpool  Lancashire   
John H Lloyd 14  Manchester, Lancashire, England Son  St Jude  Lancashire   
John H Lloyd 11  Liverpool Son  Toxteth Park  Lancashire   
John H Lloyd 1  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son  Toxteth Park  Lancashire   
John H Lloyd 9  Liverpool Son  Toxteth Park  Lancashire   
John H Lloyd 30  Bomlay Head  Charlton  London   
John H Lloyd 72  Stockport, Cheshire, England Head  Paddington  London   
John H Lloyd 7  Martley, Worcestershire, England Son  Belbroughton  Worcestershire   
John H R Lloyd 12  Pimlico, Middlesex, England Son  Lambeth  London   


Do you have any further information

Chris in 1066Land   

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: reddesktop on Sunday 18 July 04 19:42 BST (UK)

Thanks for that Chris.
I am interested in the John in Shropshire, possibly.
All I know is John's father was William. I can't fid him for sure in 1881, there is one in Willenhall but I don't think he is mine.
I have him in 1891 and 1901.

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Sunday 18 July 04 19:49 BST (UK)

Hi Reddesktop

Sorry, but I dont think it is the right one

Enoch Lloyd 37  Wombridge, Shropshire, England Head  Wombridge  Shropshire   
Enoch Lloyd 4  Wombridge, Shropshire, England Son  Wombridge  Shropshire   
John Henry Lloyd 6  Wombridge, Shropshire, England Son  Wombridge  Shropshire   
Mary Ann Lloyd 37  Wombridge, Shropshire, England Wife  Wombridge  Shropshire   

Chris in 1066Land

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: Gardener on Sunday 18 July 04 22:38 BST (UK)

Could you post ALL the 1881 details and then I'll see if I can find them in the 1871.

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: reddesktop on Monday 19 July 04 08:29 BST (UK)

Hi,
These are the details from 1881 but I think the first is not mine for reasons that are too long to explain. Could be but large element of doubt. The second could be but no father so not sure. That's why I hoped I could find him in 1871.
Cheers,
John

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 William LLOYD   Head   M   Male   47   Ironbridge, Shropshire, England   Coal Miner     
 Martha LLOYD   Wife   M   Female   45   Brosley, Shropshire, England       
 John LLOYD   Son   U   Male   17   Willenhall, Stafford, England   Iron Caster     
 Hannah LLOYD   Daur      Female   14   Willenhall, Stafford, England   Scholar     
 Richard LLOYD   Son      Male   11   Willenhall, Stafford, England   Scholar     

Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 William LLOYD   Head   M   Male   47   Ironbridge, Shropshire, England   Coal Miner     
 Martha LLOYD   Wife   M   Female   45   Brosley, Shropshire, England       
 John LLOYD   Son   U   Male   17   Willenhall, Stafford, England   Iron Caster     
 Hannah LLOYD   Daur      Female   14   Willenhall, Stafford, England   Scholar     
 Richard LLOYD   Son      Male   11   Willenhall, Stafford, England   Scholar     

Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 William LLOYD   Head   M   Male   47   Ironbridge, Shropshire, England   Coal Miner     
 Martha LLOYD   Wife   M   Female   45   Brosley, Shropshire, England       
 John LLOYD   Son   U   Male   17   Willenhall, Stafford, England   Iron Caster     
 Hannah LLOYD   Daur      Female   14   Willenhall, Stafford, England   Scholar     
 Richard LLOYD   Son      Male   11   Willenhall, Stafford, England   Scholar     

ALSO

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Charles LLOYD   Head   U   Male   24   Ironbridge, Shropshire, England   Iron Stone Miner     
 John LLOYD   Lodger   U   Male   17   Willenhall, Stafford, England   Iron Moulder     

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: Gardener on Monday 19 July 04 11:39 BST (UK)

Morning! Thought I would start with the easy one, even if it is no help!

RG10-2942/4
Willenhall, Ecc dist St Gyle's
Clarks Lane
7 Private H
William Lloyd,head,m,37,coal miner,Shropshire,Ironbridge
Martha Lloyd,wife,m,35,Shropshire,Beaseley
William H Lloyd,son,14,coal miner,Shropshire Beaseley
Thomas E Lloyd,son,9,scholar,shropshire,Ironbridge
John Lloyd,son,6,scholar,Staffordshire,Willenhall
Hannah Lloyd,dau,4,scholar,Staffordshire,Willenhall
Richard Lloyd,son,1,Staffordshire,Willenhall
William Morris,boarder,unm,24,coal miner,Shropshire,Wellington
Issac Jones,boarder,unm,24,coal miner,Shropshire,Wellington

Plenty of other Lloyds on this Piece but not the other John. Ran through RG10-2943 too but no joy. Sorry, Willenhall is a bit too big to search it all ???

Couldn't see him in Cheslyn Hey either.

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: reddesktop on Monday 19 July 04 12:58 BST (UK)

Yes that is the same family as in 1881 but as I say I don't think that is the family.
I was wondering if the Charles Lloyd could be found in case that is his brother?

Cheers,
John

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: Gardener on Monday 19 July 04 13:37 BST (UK)

I didn't see Charles either. I presume that the birth places Cheslyn Hay/Bloxwich are off the 1891 and 1901 census? Then I would query the 1881 with Willenhall as the birth place. It is a bit out of the way and if you make a triangle with those 3 places it is a huge area to cover without a name index and no address to go by!
Do you have an occupation for William? Any chance of finding him on the 1881?
Sorry I can't help more at this stage.

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: reddesktop on Tuesday 20 July 04 08:12 BST (UK)

Thanks for trying.
The 1891 and 1901 are where I got Bloxwich from. Cheslyn Hey was his marriage cert.
William was a miner. I can find lots of Williams but not with a 'John' This is why I was hoping 1871 would show the family

John

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: Gardener on Tuesday 20 July 04 23:16 BST (UK)

Hi again. Sorry I got a bit confused there. I have now searched pretty much all of the Walsall area, using the online surname index, and there is not a sniff of a John aged about 7, father William anywhere as far as I can see. Sorry but it looks as though they had moved elsewhere. Gues you'll have to wait until Ancestry name indexes the Staffordshire bit too. :(

Looked at all the following areas:

Aldridge & Great Barr

Bloxwich, Leamore & Birchills

Brownhills, Walsall Wood & Shelfield

Darlaston & Bentley

Pelsall

Walsall & Rushall

Willenhall

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: reddesktop on Wednesday 21 July 04 06:15 BST (UK)

Thanks for that. I will make a note of where you have researched and as you say I will have to wait,

Thanks again

John

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: Ann Lloyd on Saturday 13 December 14 23:15 GMT (UK)

Hi
I have been researching my family tree and came across your post, I don't know if this is the John you are looking for but here goes:
John Lloyd DOB 1821 Clun, Shropshire
Wife: Ann (E) Lloyd DOB 1832 Downton Hereford  by the way both were named Lloyd when single. They were married in Kingsland, Hereford 1853 (John's fathers name was: David Lloyd and Ann's Father's name was: William Lloyd)

Children were:
Amy E Lloyd DOB: 1877 in Aldridge
Samuel Lloyd DOB:1869 in Rudge Heath, Shropshire
Ann E Lloyd DOB: 1863 Ruabon Flintshire
William Lloyd DOB: 1861 Marlow, Herefordshire
Jane Lloyd DOB 1859 Downton, Herefordshire

Did this help?

Ann Lloyd

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: sarah on Monday 15 December 14 11:37 GMT (UK)

Hi Ann,

Welcome to RootsChat.

I am very sorry to say that our email notification to John has bounced back to us, it looks like he updated his email in 2013 but we do not know what it is?? I have tried searching but can not find an alternative way of contacting him.

Regards

Sarah

Title: Re: Staffs 1871 LLoyd
Post by: Ann Lloyd on Monday 15 December 14 11:58 GMT (UK)

Hi Sarah

Thank you trying.

Kind regards
Ann