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I have found documentations for a few different ancestors. They all say plot 0745. I thought that might refer to a family plot. Does anyone know what the plot number refers to?
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What sort of 'documentation'? family papers or from an online resource? or something else?
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I found a Graveyard Inscription Record from rootsireland. I would like to find out where I could get a copy of the actual death certificate. I am struggling to get a picture uploaded. Will check with my son in law tonight. Also, how can I get right back to this posting? I always go back to my first reply email for the link. There must be a better way. Thanks for your help.
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Sometimes cemetery/gravestone databases assign their own number to a record in their database that have nothing to do with the cemetery's actual records. I suspect that's the case here. Derry City Cemetery is huge and grave references usually include a section number followed by plot number.
Not sure what picture you want to post but you can't post the page from Rootsireland site. Besides which a transcription isn't an actual record.
What death certificate are you looking for? if you post the name, etc. that you know we might be able to find the reference and you'll be able to order the actual certificate from GRONI (depending on date of death).
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Hi Kweiss62
The number 0745 just refers to the Londonderry City Cemetery.
In 2010 I wrote to the Irish Family History Foundation about a "Plot No. 0745" on a transcript of a Grave in Londonderry City Cemetery and received the following reply from Brian Mitchell
"Thank you for your email which Irish Family History Foundation has forwarded to me.
"The plot number 745 in this cases refers to an ID number for Derry City Cemetery and not to a particular grave.
"It is only by examining the actual registers of Derry City Cemetery can you identify the location of burial plots."
Hope this helps. Best wishes from Beth
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What the email doesn't make entirely clear if that the reference number is their reference and not one from the cemetery records.
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I was in Derry this time last year and visted Derry City Cemetery on Lone Moor Road
I was armed with the death info for my ggg grandfather and I knew that he was buried somewhere in the huge cemetery.
The gatehouse was manned and a kind gentleman who was working there did a look up for me from the burial index cards which are held in the little office.
He immediately located the card ( alphabetical order by surname) which also gave details of everyone who is buried in the plot.
This lovely man then got into his car (council van) and asked me to follow him
He took me directly to the grave.
I wonder if there is a phone number for this office?
Edit:
City Cemetery Office,
Gatelodge,
Lone Moor Road,
Derry
BT47 2LA
****Tel : 028 71362615***
Email : phyllis.callan@derrycity.gov.uk
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Marriage certificate - Can anyone read the deceased mother's surname
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Regarding the marriage cretic ate I previously posted.... This shows my grandfather James Duffy married my grandmother Esther Ferns on June ninth 1900 at St Mungo's Church in Glasgow, Scotland.
I can make out Esther's parents as John Ferns and Elizabeth Ferns MS Mulholland. That is accurate.
I can make out James' father as James Duffy and ??? Duffy MS ??? (Deceased)
From birth certificates for James and his brother John, I have their mother listed as Mary Quigg. This spelling makes me question myself as to whether I traced back correctly.
I need to solve this issue before I go further. Any suggestions.
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It is hard to read the mother's name but it looks like Ann to me.
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The first name could be Mary but the last name is Quigley
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Looked at writing again last night. Now it appears to say " Quig is deceased". But I may be seeing what I want to see. I also see Mary more than Ann.
Would the parents information be on my grandfathers death certificate. He is buried in St. Peter's Dalbeth Cemetery in Glasgow , Scotland.
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Yes, the parents should be named on the cert but it's dependant on the informant who registers the death.
The informant may not have known the parents names
Re the marriage cert.
It's written in a standard format and will not read: "Is Deceased"
"(deceased)" is added below the mother's name which is standard format.
This now looks like her last name is slightly longer than Quigg.
I am certain it says Quigley
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Hi annep5862,
If the information is only as good as the informant, then maybe the marriage certificate name on James and Esther is wrong. I can't find a quigley that married James and had the two sons I know.
Also, on the orig marriage certificate of James Duffy and Mary quigg (that I found) , they listed their parents as Duffey and mcQuig. It appears the names change with whoever records it.
How can I be sure I wonder?
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Personally, I think they are the correct parents but it may be worth obtaining the death cert for James
Search result from Rootsireland.
I found the following born/baptized in Derry with these parents:
James Duffy and Mary QUIGG
James Duffy 1879
Patrick Duffy 1881
Mary Eliza Duffy 1883
John Duffy 1887
One other child has parents:
James Duffy and Mary QUIG
Annie Duffy 1877
I am fairly sure these are all the same family
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Hi Anne,
I think so too. I am working on getting the death certificate for James now. I had found James, Patrick, Mary Eliza and John.
I missed Annie. I go on rootsireland. How did you find her?
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When I did the search, I used a Standard Surname Search: Quig
This search format shows all the children listed
( I assume it means their mother's name started with Quig)
By changing the search to "Exact Surname Index" using Quigg, Annie dropped off the list.
I searched only for Annie but,I changed her mother's name back to Quig... "Exact Surname Match" and there it was!
Edit:
At least yours dropped one letter only off the mother's name
My family from Derry had 4 children, and every one of them has a different last name spelling on their birth/baptsimal records.
Both sons moved to Glasgow and each had different version of the same name!
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Did you cross reference the birth info with GRONI to get the exact DOBs?
All births are there, except Annie's.
There is only a baptism showing for her on Rootsireland?
James 24 Apr 1879
Patrick 13 Aug 1881
Mary 27 Oct 1883
John 3 Oct 1887
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Hi Anne,
I feel for you with those last names. Now I understand why some people are at this for years.
I am going to try out GRONI now.
As for finding the kids under the name Quig, did you do this on rootsireland? I tried but I seem to keep needing to enter a date. .????
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Rootsireland:
Births/ Baptisms
Derry ( tick box)
Surname: Duffy
First name.... (leave Blank)
Father's surname: Duffy
Father's 1st Name: James
Mother's Surname: Quigg
Mother's 1st Name: Mary
1881+/- 10yrs
Standard Surname index
= 9 matches
one each birth & baptisms for James, John, Patrick and Mary
one baptism only for Annie
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Very interesting. I went on GRONI. Annie Duffy does not come up with a birthdate. bUT she does come up with a death cert. No parents listed but when I viewed the enhanced it showed James Duffy as father of deceased. Poor thing was 5 years old had the measles 8 days and bronchitis 3 days.
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Hello. Whilst doing a family search on Roots Ireland I found details of my Uncle John who died aged 3 months and was buried in plot 0745 at Derry City Cemetery so I wonder if this relates to him?
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Welcome to Rootschat. The answer to Plot 0745 is at the beginning of this thread-
Hi Kweiss62
The number 0745 just refers to the Londonderry City Cemetery.
In 2010 I wrote to the Irish Family History Foundation about a "Plot No. 0745" on a transcript of a Grave in Londonderry City Cemetery and received the following reply from Brian Mitchell
"Thank you for your email which Irish Family History Foundation has forwarded to me.
"The plot number 745 in this cases refers to an ID number for Derry City Cemetery and not to a particular grave.
"It is only by examining the actual registers of Derry City Cemetery can you identify the location of burial plots."
Hope this helps. Best wishes from Beth