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Title: smith family horsha
Post by: derbs on Tuesday 11 November 14 22:57 GMT (UK)
With very limited information I am looking to see if joseph samuel smith born horsham sussex 1903 son of edward smith matches with tree. Does joseph stay in horsham or move to surrey borders. Any ideas. Many thanks
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 11 November 14 23:04 GMT (UK)
Are you sure of that birthplace and date - cannot see one on free bmd?
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 11 November 14 23:13 GMT (UK)
There is this birth:
Births Mar 1903 
Giacomelli    Joseph Samuel        Horsham    2b   311

If you got your information from the 1911 census, is there any remote possibilty that this is the correct person?
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: derbs on Tuesday 11 November 14 23:19 GMT (UK)
1911 census shows joseph samuel smith b 1903, looking to see where he was in later years
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 11 November 14 23:25 GMT (UK)
I appreciate that he is shown in the 1911 census, but there is not an apparent birth for him, so what else do you know about him?

(There is not a matching death for him, either)
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 11 November 14 23:36 GMT (UK)
The family that appears as Smith in 1911 and 1901 census, use the surname Giacomelli in 1891.
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 11 November 14 23:40 GMT (UK)
This looks like Edward and Eliza Jane's marriage:
Marriages Jun 1879 
xxxx   COLLINGS    Eliza Jane         Brighton   
xxxxx   GIACOMELLI    Edward         Brighton   
MARKWICK    Robert         Brighton   
Wintchester    Annie         Brighton   
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: chempat on Tuesday 11 November 14 23:48 GMT (UK)
Joseph Samuel Giacomelli marries in Horsham in 1927, and dies in Crawley in 1994.
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: derbs on Tuesday 11 November 14 23:52 GMT (UK)
Didvyou notice name of wife
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: chempat on Wednesday 12 November 14 06:52 GMT (UK)
Daisy M South.  (It is showing on free bmd)

Several children showing on free bmd.
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: Jackie Laithwaite on Friday 23 January 15 20:49 GMT (UK)
Interesting reading about smith/giacomelli surname, my grandad was born James giacomelli in 1879 Brighton, the family then seemed to change the name to smith, on his marriage certificate it is James giacomelli-smith, have never managed to get to the bottom of the name change
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: chempat on Friday 23 January 15 23:57 GMT (UK)
Welcome to the boards, Jackie

Hope derbs returns to the boards to discuss any connections.

Did your grandfather never discuss the name change?
Title: Re: smith family horsha
Post by: Jackie Laithwaite on Saturday 24 January 15 14:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks, the family story is that my grandfathers dad died and his mother remarried so he ran away to the army and changed his name to smith but when I have researched it would appear that the family were giacomelli then in 1881 they are smith then 1891 back to giacomelli! Very confusing and on his marriage certificate it is giacomelli-smith but his dad is written as William smith, not sure I will ever get to the bottom of it but will keep trying!