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Title: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: RobHam on Sunday 09 November 14 16:29 GMT (UK)
I have inherited a birth certificate for an unknown blood line and am currently trying to tie it into my database,  found in my mothers estate so must be somehow related, perhaps an illegitimate blood line kept secret.

Hence I am trying to trace the parents of Alfred S G Cooper birth registered in Sep 1912 e.preston with mothers surname Jones.

Robert
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: ..claire.. on Sunday 09 November 14 17:05 GMT (UK)
Hi

Had a look on FreeBMD and there are another 2 births in that district with those names used

Charles F A Cooper mmn Jones Sept. Qtr. 1917  E. Preston
Dorothy A M    "        "        "   June Qtr. 1920     "     "

Possible siblings ?

claire

Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 09 November 14 17:09 GMT (UK)
I have inherited a birth certificate for an unknown blood line

Hence I am trying to trace the parents of Alfred S G Cooper birth registered in Sep 1912 e.preston with mothers surname Jones.


What information does the birth certificate give on the parents or is it a 'short' one
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 09 November 14 17:16 GMT (UK)
Marriages March qtr 1910 
COOPER    Edward James       
JONES    Emma Gale
Brighton    2b   374   

Maybe the G stands for Gale  :-\
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: ..claire.. on Sunday 09 November 14 17:29 GMT (UK)
Hi

There is another marriage in 1895 East Preston district of a Stephen James Cooper, the two potential brides include a Kate JONES and Annie Mary Gibbins.

Can find census entries for a family in Littlehampton, East Sussex of a Stephen and Kate Cooper, but their ages are in the mid to late forties by 1911, so may be a little old to be Alfreds parents.

claire
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 09 November 14 17:39 GMT (UK)
The couple I found were away in 1911
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7VW-R7D
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: ..claire.. on Sunday 09 November 14 17:51 GMT (UK)
1891 census for the family I found show Kate Jones as housekeeper to Stephen Cooper, with 6 children

Lyminster

Stephen Cooper   29 mar.   gen lab.      bn Sussex Littlehampton
Kate Jones   26           S     Housekeeper         "                "
Arthur Cooper   8                                       "     Brighton
Albert Cooper   7                                             Lyminster
May Cooper   6                                                  "
William Cooper   5                                                  "
Henry Charles Cooper   2                                          "
Robertt M O Cooper   10mnths                               "

 Class RG12,  Piece 838,  Folio 104,  Page 11.

Wonder if Kate was their mother if they didn't marry until 1895.

claire
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 09 November 14 17:55 GMT (UK)
I think only the full birth certificate will solve it or maybe his marriage in 1934  ;D
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 09 November 14 18:09 GMT (UK)
Marriages March qtr 1910 
COOPER    Edward James       
JONES    Emma Gale
Brighton    2b   374   

Maybe the G stands for Gale  :-\

I think we can discount this one. He was discharged from the army in 1914 suffering from severe heatstroke.  Wife named on paperwork, no mention of an Alfred.
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: RobHam on Sunday 09 November 14 23:08 GMT (UK)
I think only the full birth certificate will solve it or maybe his marriage in 1934  ;D

Many thanks for the lookups,  I think I will invest in some certificates.
My Mother told me that she visited as a young girl some cousins that lived towards Brighton,  they had a laundry business but could not remember who they where.

Robert
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: keilsy on Sunday 26 February 17 22:11 GMT (UK)
Rob

Have just seen this post.  would really like to talk to you about Alfred S G Cooper's birth Certificate.
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: RobHam on Monday 27 February 17 19:50 GMT (UK)
Rob

Have just seen this post.  would really like to talk to you about Alfred S G Cooper's birth Certificate.
I have checked my database and have never resolved the parents of Alfred.

I do have that he most probably married Margorie Gray
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: avm228 on Monday 27 February 17 20:19 GMT (UK)
His full name on the registration is Alfred Stephen George Cooper (though presumably that is already known if a birth certificate is in hand).

I would suggest looking for him in the 1939 Register - playing with the free search suggests he may have his mother Kate and wife Margery with him.  We can't post details here though.
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: keilsy on Tuesday 28 February 17 06:31 GMT (UK)
Thanks Rob.  I am tracing the Gray Line!!!  We didn't know Marjorie married twice, Alfred being the first.  We can't find a death for him so we were wondering what happened.  Why did your mum have the certificate, maybe we have a very thin link!!!

Keila
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 28 February 17 09:17 GMT (UK)
Did Marjorie Gray have a child either with Alfred or before marrying him? If you access the 1939 Register it is always worth seeing whether there is a redacted member of the household.

Also, FreeBMD shows a possible Cooper/Gray daughter born in Worthing district in 1943 (who obviously would not appear in 1939).

I see that Marjorie went on to marry Frederick Lawson in Worthing district in 1947.
Title: Re: Parents of Alfred S G Cooper b. about 1912
Post by: keilsy on Tuesday 28 February 17 17:29 GMT (UK)
Wow, thank you for info.  Don't usually use FreeBMD but will have a look.  We don't know if marj and Alfred had any children , but may be we do now.  We only knew about Fred Lawson so any cooper/gray children are going to be a bonus.

Thanks for all you help.