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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: little alison on Thursday 06 November 14 13:10 GMT (UK)
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My uncle Maurice died in 1972 ...I have just received his death certificate, and he died of 'Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis'. (Ok, I looked that up)
My parents didn't know this - we had been out of touch since sometime after he married in 1950.
Having read the certificate more closely today, I see the informant was a Cyril Frederick Wright and his qualifications read as 'Causing the body to be cremated'.
Which, very unexpectedly, sounds as if Maurice was alone at the time.
Was he separated from wife Henrietta? (Betty).
He was an architect and university lecturer, and this is beginning to sound like a sad story.
Where can I find any more information? Nothing on Ancestry that I can find.
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His cremation record is on deceased online though I don't know how much information that would give
Maurice Edgar Little
cremation date 24 May 1972
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Id be looking to see if he left a will, to see if and how he mentions Henrietta.
Or maybe he was widowed?
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In 1952 Maurice & Henrietta are living at 32 Fordwych Road, Hampstead also there is an Elizabeth Stavorinus. It is where Henrietta was resident before her marriage to Maurice
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Is this Henriettas death
Henrietta Dorothy Little
Birth 22 March 1916
Death registered March qtr 1982
Age 66
Reg dist Chatham
16 /0721
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Was he in hospital when he died.
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Thanks for replies.
Yes that is Henrietta.
And I already have the will and his money was left to her (will 1968, and no children) unless she had died - in which case it was left to another woman and we have no idea who she was! However that didn't happen.
I have now found a Henrietta D Little in Camden in 1952 - were they separated, I wonder? May not be her of course.
And who was Cyril Frederick Wright?
And is there a Cambridge newspaper that might have a report?
And the place of death is his address.
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I have now found a Henrietta D Little in Camden in 1952 - were they separated, I wonder? May not be her of course.
And the place of death is his address.
They were listed together in 1952 in Hampstead. (Reply 3)
As you have the address he was living electoral registers may show who else was living there at the time and afterwards
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The death cert should give an address for Cyril Frederick Wright, he could have been a neighbour or friend.
Electoral registers won't give relationships but they do list those eligible to vote at a particular address.
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If you can't get to Cambridgeshire for the electoral registers, then the British Library has a virtually complete post WW2 set but they are in storage and take 48hours to be delivered to St Pancras.
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Afraid I can't get anywhere at present. I live in South Oxfordshire.
Sorry I missed reply3, rosie99 - too many things coming in at once! I should have looked for Maurice as well there, obviously. Never knew they were in Hampstead.
Cyril's address is Thornton close, Girton - just outside Cambridge?
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This could have been Cyril also at Cambridge Crem :-\
Cyril Frederick Wright
cremation date 7 February 1980
Death registration index gives date of birth as 16 May 1920
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Thanks Rosie.
Maybe it was just that Betty (Henrietta) couldn't cope if he suddenly died, and called on a friend? Who took over everything? It doesn't sound much like what I remember of her, but I didn't really know her.
Cyril was not mentioned in the will, no one else was. Including family!
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From googling the cause of death, I would assume that he was in hospital or a nursing home and as he was cremated it would need 2 doctors to sign the death certificate. Normally, "causing the body to be cremated (or buried) means the cert has been signed by a member of hospital staff, so it's probable that Cyril Frederick Wright was either a doctor or nurse.
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The cert. does say place of death is 35 Causewayside, his home a/d.
Also says 'certified by N.A.Walker, MB' only
I now have 'SLeader Cyril Frederick Wright' coming from Burma with family in 1858.
- a/d Cambridge, right birth date.
Maurice wasn't in the RAF he was in the Royal Engineers - and he was in Burma, if the Burma Star I used to have is his. He did have 2 cousins in the RAF.....could be any sort of connection here, but I feel doubtful if Cyril was a doctor?
Or am i just confusing things?!
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Sorry - 1958!
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Hi,
In the 1975 edition of Kelly's Directory for Cambridge the occupant of 35 Causewayside is H. Little.
Selina
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In the 1960 edition (information probably gathered in 1959) No. 35 is missing, so possibly empty. Maurice does not appear in the list of private residents.
I don't have 1961 but in 1962 Maurice Little is listed at that address.
Selina
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Of the several funerals I have arranged the funeral director has offered to register the death, the doctor(s) sign the death cert., take this to the registrar to register the death, and get a certificate authorising the disposal of the body ( doesn't that sound clinical) the undertaker needs this so it makes sense for them to register the death.
mike
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Trying to sort this out:
Maurice and Henrietta D Little in Camden in 1952
In 1952 Maurice & Henrietta are living at 32 Fordwych Road, Hampstead
1960 edition (information probably gathered in 1959) No. 35 is missing, so possibly empty.
1972 Maurice listed in the Phone directory
1972 Maurice dies
1975 edition of Kelly's Directory for Cambridge the occupant of 35 Causewayside is H. Little.
So she's still there after he died.
Have I got it all? I've copied this and will see what I can add.
Mazi you think he's a funeral director?
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I think it is a possibility, I know that my mum was in no fit state to get on the bus and join the queue at the registrars to do it herself.
mike
added, he is "causing the body to be cremated" it seems likely to me
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It was the 1962 Kelly's Cambridge Street Directory that I have Maurice listed at 35 Causewayside, likely to have arrived there between 1959 and 1961 at a guess.
He actually still appears at No. 35 in the 1973 Kelly's but we know he was dead by then.
Selina
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It was the 1962 Kelly's Cambridge Street Directory that I have Maurice listed at 35 Causewayside, likely to have arrived there between 1959 and 1961 at a guess.
He actually still appears at No. 35 in the 1973 Kelly's but we know he was dead by then.
Selina
Selina are you able to check this address please or whether he was an undertaker :)
Cyril's address is Thornton close, Girton
Cyril Frederick Wright
Rosie
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My father's a funeral director and has not registered a death on behalf of a member of the family.
according to the gov.uk website
Who can register the death
You can register the death if you’re:
a relative
someone present at the death
an administrator from the hospital
the person making arrangements with the funeral directors
'causing the body' refers to the person who is making the funeral arrangements
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Hi Rosie,
I already had a look, he is there and oddly also at a No.35 but no indication of what his occupation/business was.
Selina
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Thanks for looking Selina :)
Rosie
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Maurice and Henrietta D Little in Camden in 1952
In 1952 Maurice & Henrietta are living at 32 Fordwych Road, Hampstead
We are looking at the same entry for this couple, the transcript is wrong ;)
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My father's a funeral director and has not registered a death on behalf of a member of the family.
according to the gov.uk website
Who can register the death
You can register the death if you’re:
a relative
someone present at the death
an administrator from the hospital
the person making arrangements with the funeral directors
'causing the body' refers to the person who is making the funeral arrangements
Barbara Dixon's site at http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/deaths.htm#COL9 (Barbara is a retired Superintendent Registrar) states "Note that someone whose qualification is "causing the burial or cremation....." is NOT the undertaker. This is the person who is giving the instructions to the undertaker - or in the past - was doing the funeral arrangements themselves."
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I may have misled you, Little Alison, sorry :(
mike
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(Sorry have been busy with new grandson and hosp appointments)
I suppose after being in the RAF, Cyril Wright - (who is definitely no relation) could have turned his hand to practically anything!
But it does seem that Betty was there.
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Hi,
I came across this thread whilst research my family history - my great grandfather was Henrietta Little's Uncle (Henrietta's mother Elizabeth Stavorinus (maiden name Knight) was the sister of my great grandfather Robert William Knight). I'm in the process of putting together a family tree on Ancestry.com and am trying to gather as much info as I can about my great grandfather's siblings. From what I gather Henrietta died in 1982, but I've only found that out on Ancestry. If anyone knows any general info about her or her three sisters it would be amazing to know.
Kind regards, Paul.
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Hi Paul
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
sorry for the slow reply.
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Dawn
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Hi Paul. If you send me an email a/d via messages, I will send you what I have on my uncle Maurice?
Sorry I can't do much more as I'm rather busy writing a novel...
I know very little about my aunt Henrietta (Betty) as unfortunately she didn't get on with my mother, and I didn't see my uncle (who I was very fond of) much after they married.
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Welcome back!
Paul was online earlier today and should get an email notification that we have posted.
Fingers crossed he comes back soon.
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Hi Alison, When I got to messages > new message it says I'm not allowed to send messages (I guess because I'm new). If you message me on here I'm guessing I'll be able to reply? I've got a photo of Maurice I can send you as well that I've restored to remove all of the photo damage.
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...it's this image (attached) that you've probably previously seen, but I've got rid of all the scratches and blobs.
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Hi Paul
You now have a high enough post count to be able to send to and receive messages from little alison.
If you want to exchange images, you will need to swap email addresses with each other.
Dawn
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Hi Paul.
Thanks for your message, I now have your email - I'll get things together and send them soon. I may have photos you don't have, of course. cheers, Alison
To Dawn - thanks for the welcome back! I'm still around...