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Title: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: Palies Ruth on Monday 03 November 14 22:55 GMT (UK)
Hi I am looking for any information on a John Mackie born in Nairn Nairn-shire Scotland on 4th October 1886 to John Mackie and Ann Mackie Ms McDonald they married on 29th December 1876 in Nairn. I have looked extensively in Ancestry and have a few possibilities of him on route to Australia. On his fathers death certificate in 1916 John is home and his address on this is Melbourne. When his mother died in 1924 no record to say he was home. Any info would be appreciated.
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 04 November 14 00:12 GMT (UK)
"....On his fathers death certificate in 1916 John is home and his address on this is Melbourne".

I am not sure what you mean...."home"........is John at his parents' home in 1916 when father dies, and son John is living in Melbourne?....seems unusual to have home address of son on a death certificate.

When John MACKIE senior d. 1916, how is his son John b. 1886  described please.
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: SASHAR on Tuesday 04 November 14 00:24 GMT (UK)
John MACKIE's service record can be found on National Archives Australia.

Mackie John : SERN 8653 : POB Inverness Scotland : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK W Mackie Miriam Lucy

A quick glance reveals John enlisted in Australia and was given leave around 1916 while in the UK, probably in regards to his father's death.  There is also a marriage record and the last page may have a note for his death in 1934 where he appears to be in Qld.   

Hope that helps a little,
Sashar
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Tuesday 04 November 14 00:50 GMT (UK)
WW1 Service Record:

http://discoveringanzacs.naa.gov.au/browse/person/47786
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: cupoflife on Tuesday 04 November 14 00:52 GMT (UK)
QLD BDM 1934 C772 John Mackie; Father-John; Mother-Ann McDonald
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Tuesday 04 November 14 01:04 GMT (UK)
Marriage in the UK:

John MACKIE m. Miriam L FITT Mar qtr 1919 Uxbridge #3a/95
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: cupoflife on Tuesday 04 November 14 01:09 GMT (UK)
John Mackie: Date of death 22/03/1934
Funeral notice: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/55530733
Mt Morgan Cemetery: http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=7521042
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Tuesday 04 November 14 01:14 GMT (UK)
Death:

Miriam Lucy MACKIE d. 1980 #54582      
Parents: Robert FITT & A.M. HOWARD

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=deaths
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 04 November 14 01:19 GMT (UK)
John MACKIE is listed on E. Rolls as a baker in the Mt Morgan and Rockhampton areas .

From 1936 onwards, Miriam Lucy is in the same region to 1980 performing Home Duties.

Sue

Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 04 November 14 01:32 GMT (UK)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/70548609

Absconding debtor John MACKIE of Emu Park QLD 1932

Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: Aussie1947 on Tuesday 04 November 14 05:16 GMT (UK)
Hi,

1922 Commonwealth Electoral Roll.

John Mackie, 53 Denison St Rockhampton, baker.
Miriam Lucy Mackie, 53 Denison St, Rockhampton, home duties.

Also

John Mackie, Darcy St, Mount Morgan, baker.
Miriam Lucy Mackie, Darcy St, Mount Morgan, home duties.

May indicate a shift from Rockhampton to nearby Mount Morgan during 1922.

Gerry
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: cupoflife on Tuesday 04 November 14 05:24 GMT (UK)
Same burial plot at Mount Morgan Cemetery:
John Mackie: age 47; date of service 23/03/1934; occupation Baker
John William Mackie: age 32; date of service 19/09/1953; Ashes
(See pg 57) http://www.rockhamptonregion.qld.gov.au/files/29441960-c0fe-47f1-928f-a36b00b53988/0114_Mount_Morgan_Cemetery_Index.pdf
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 04 November 14 05:39 GMT (UK)
In 1943 on E. Roll

Address Morgan St. Mt Morgan

MACKIE, Miriam Lucy
MACKIE, John William, sampler.


There is ww2 enlistment summary for John William

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=111477

He was born 13 June 1919 in Middlesex after the February marriage and must have travelled with his mother to Australia.

Sue


Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 04 November 14 05:46 GMT (UK)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/75427497


Interesting obituary for John William 1953.

Sue

ADDING, The last sentence of the Obituary states the his father John MACKIE died from the effects of gassing in the war.
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: cupoflife on Tuesday 04 November 14 06:02 GMT (UK)
Funeral Notice for John William Mackie http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/48929213
West Terrace Cemetery http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/RecordsSearch.aspx
Name: Mackie, John William
Date of Death: 02 September 1953
Age: 34 Years
Last Abode: MORGAN 
Service Type: Cremation
Cremated remains not interred at a cemetery administered by Adelaide Cemeteries Authority

Adding: death notice http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/48929213
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 04 November 14 06:11 GMT (UK)
Very sad for Miriam to lose both husband and son at such young ages.

Sue
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: Palies Ruth on Tuesday 04 November 14 20:45 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for all your information I am overwhelmed with the help received and have followed up all the links. I know I would not have managed to source all these historical memories on my own. On some of our death certificates in Scotland the person present at the death if not residing in the home states where they live. When John Mackie was at the death of his Father in 1916 in Nairn his residence was given as Oxford Street Okleigh Melbourne. Thanks again.

Ruth
Title: Re: John Mackie Melbourne Australia
Post by: SASHAR on Tuesday 04 November 14 22:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Ruth,
The WW1 enlistment records show that John MACKIE enlisted at Essendon which is a suburb of Melbourne in the State of VICTORIA.   At some stage John must have resided in Melbourne and after his return from the war headed to the State of QUEENSLAND where a lot of the Electoral Roll information has been found.
All the States of AUSTRALIA have their own separate records covering different periods of time.
Your rellies have been quite adventurous being found in three States of Australia, VICTORIA, QUEENSLAND and STH AUSTRALIA.
Best wishes as you continue in your research,
Sashar