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I'm looking for a Moses Hayball who someone on Anc. have as dying in Utah on 10 Dec 1876. He was born in Somerset in 1797 & Married a Sarah Coombs. I'm not sure that the person they have would have gone to America but if anyone could find out for me I would be very grateful. I cant find a death record for him in this country.
Thanks
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hi there.....
I just googled "Utah deaths 1876 Hayball", and some really detailed materials come up on the surname in Utah..... however in the first attempt I didnt see a Moses......
one of those biographies looked at was > http://genealogytrails.com/utah/cache/bios/bios_h.html
which was very well done...u probably already seen that....
but this site link mentions a Moses>
http://www.baberfamilytree.org/worldwide/charles1723.htm
so maybe the latter is worthy of contacting......
best I can offer....
:)
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Pioneer Immigrants to Utah Terrirtory - Transcribed as Jocob Hayball born 12 January 1826 - Natt Mills, Somerest, England - Occupation :- Cobbler - Spouse Elizabeth Evans - Married 23 September 1855 - St Louis Missouri. Arrived in Salt lake City in 1861 - Died 27 June 1892 Logan, Cache, Utah
Father Moses Hayball and Mother Sarah Coombs.
Sandra
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Jacob Hayball - 1826 - 1892
Married - Harriet Malora Jones, abt 1848, Frome, Somerset, England. She died 20 Jun 1849, England.
Married Elizabeth Evans, 23 Sep 1855, St. Louis, St. Louis, Missouri.
Children - Sarah Ann Hayball, Henry James Hayball, Harriet Melora Hayball, John Jacob Hayball, Elizabeth Ann Hayball, Eliza Jane Hayball, Charlotte Hayball, Charles Hayball, Moses Hayball, Edmund Evans Hayball, William Hayball, Fanny Pearl Hayball.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=72025360&ref=acom
Wife of Jacob - Elizabeth Evans
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Hayball&GSiman=1&GScid=77314&GRid=72025469&
https://familysearch.org/search will show you lots of census and other records to help document the family.
Sandra
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Perhaps 1867 rather than 1876?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQH2-PFJ
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F85F-RJK
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Moses Hayball - 1792 - 1876 ???
Burial: Logan City Cemetery Logan Cache County Utah
Plot: A_ 10_ 10_ 4
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=91739055&ref=acom
IGI has multiple "submitted" records for a Moses Hayball son of James Hayball and Sarah Cook and the birth/baptism dates vary within the years 1797 to 1801. Two Utah marriage records for a Moses Hayball both give his birth date as 6 aug 1801 and this birth year fits better that 1797 with recorded ages on census and death records.
It's still a bit of a mystery as to the 2 marriages and one divorce in Utah in the 3 years preceding his death. Maybe there was polygamay involved considering the connections of the broader Hayball family with the Mormon church in Utah at this time.
He worked as a Gardener in 1841 and resided at "Prospect Cottage", St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands, England. 9
He worked as a Nurseryman in 1861 and resided at Hampreston, Hampshire. 10 (widowed and on his own)
He immigrated from England in 1863 to US.
He filed for divorce on 12 Jun 1865 in Utah.
http://www.beresford.org.au/history/gen/tree/5878.htm
Utah Cemetery Inventory.
Mose Hayball
Birth Date: 1792 Death Date:10 Dec 1876
Burial Date:12 December 1876
Cemetery: Logan City Cemetery
Grave Location: A_ 10_ 10_ 4
Sandra
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1870 Census shows Jacob and family - Logan Ward 2, Cache, Utah Territory directly underneath is Moses Hayball.
Jacob Hayball 44
Elizabeth Hayball 36
Sarah Hayball 14
Henry J Hayball 11
Harriet Hayball 7
John J Hayball 7
Elizabeth Hayball 5
Charlotte Hayball 2
Next
Moses Hayball 28 (not 78 years on family search) Born Eng. No occupation.
Sandra
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FreeREG shows these baptisms at St Mary the Virgin, Chard, Somerset:
10 Apr 1796: Moses Hayball, parents Philip & Ann.
06 Nov 1797: Moses Hayball, parents James & Sarah.
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Can't find an immigration around 1863 as suggested in the Beresford research (mentioned in reply 5)
This is the marriage of Moses Hayball to Harriet Andrews - Salt Lake City 15 Nov 1863
http://abish.byui.edu/specialCollections/westernStates/westernStatesRecordDetail.cfm?recordID=193234
Sandra
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The 17 April 1864 marriage Moses Hayball to Ann Martin.
http://abish.byui.edu/specialCollections/westernStates/westernStatesRecordDetail.cfm?recordID=193267
Sandra
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Adjusting the age for Moses to 1806 - there is a New York Passenger List - Moses Hayball aged 57 years. London to New York on the Amazon. Which then fits with those marriages in Utah.
http://history.lds.org/overlandtravels/pioneerDetail?lang=eng&pioneerId=47988
Sandra
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Divorce - Moses Hayball - 12 June 1865 -
http://www.mocavo.co.uk/Moses-Hayball-Salt-Lake-County-Utah-3rd-District-Court-Civil-and-Criminal-Case-File-Index-1870-1871/13082609361149805891
http://archives.state.ut.us/cgi-bin/indexesresults.cgi?RUNWHAT=IDXFILES&KEYPATH=IDX373%20%200003676
Sandra
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Wow! Thankyou all. It seems as though Moses did go to the USA after all. I'm helping a friend out with this so I'll send her all your info.
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You're very welcome.
Copy of passenger lists of Moses Hayball aged 57b years - journey to America.
http://mormonmigration.lib.byu.edu/Search/showDetails/db:MM_MII/t:passenger/id:29287
A Compilation of General Voyage Notes
http://mormonmigration.lib.byu.edu/Search/showDetails/db:MM_MII/t:account/id:24
Sandra
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Henry James Hayball - son of Jacob and Elizabeth Ann Evans..
17 August 1858 Platte County Nebraska - 19 Nov 1915 Ogden Weber County.
Married Ida Fanny Kearl, 31 Jan 1890, Randolph, Rich, Utah.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/M7FJ-G3G - Lists children.
Burial: Logan City Cemetery Logan Cache County Utah.
Plot: A_ 240_ 16_ 8
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=29265841
Wife :- Ida Fanny Kearl Smith 1870 - 1953
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=29265885
Children:
Ida Pearl Hayball 1891 - 1891
Eugene Henry Hayball 1892 - 1892
Leland Kearl Hayball 1893 - 1961
James Knowlton Hayball 1896 - 1976
Rega Kearl Hayball 1904 - 1904
Chloetella Hayball Goodwin 1905 - 1988
Lowell Ashley Hayball 1908 - 1967
Sorry, bit of a family emergency so popping in and out. :'(
Sandra
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John Jacob Hayball (Son of Jacob and Elizabeth - birth date seems to vary in records. ) married to Julia Wasley 14 May 1891 - Binghham Idaho.
http://history.lds.org/overlandtravels/pioneerDetail?lang=eng&pioneerId=85124563835250193040
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Burial: Rose Hill Cemetery Idaho Falls Bonneville County Idaho
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=74596745&ref=acom
Julia Wasley - 1873 - 1948
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=74596746
Sandra
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2 sons of Jacob Hayball and Elizabeth Evans - Charles Hayball - 10 Feb 1870 died 20 April 1870 Logan Utah and Moses Hayball 20 February 1871 Logan Utah died 6 March 1871 Salt lake City Utah.
Sandra
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Edmund Evans Hayball - 27 January 1872 - 5 October 1943 Pocatello, Bannock, Idaho.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/M7FJ-G78
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Burial: Mountain View Cemetery Pocatello Bannock County Idaho.
Plot: 8W, 7, 4
Wife Alice
Mountain View Cemetery Pocatello Bannock County Idaho.
Plot: 8W, 7, 3
Sandra
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Another young infant death for Jacob and Elizabeth :'( :- William Hayball - 27 January 1875 - 7 November 1875
Sandra
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Thank you so much Sandra. You are doing brilliantly. My friend will be thrilled to bits when she sees this later tonight
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Hopefully if we can move forward, relatives may pick up on the thread when they google a name and be directed here. ;D Lots more info on each of the links.
Daughter of Jacob and Elizabeth - Sarah Ann Staybell Hayball/Smith - 24 July 1856 - 24 July 1943
http://utah-primoprod.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo_library/libweb/action/dlDisplay.do?vid=MWDL&afterPDS=true&docId=digcoll_usa_24193365
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F85K-C38
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SPF8-4NB - lists children.
Burial :- Logan City Cemetery Logan Cache County Utah.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=76267127&ref=acom
Husband Thomas Hodgetts Smith 1858 - 1919
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=76267138
Sandra
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Daughter of Jacob and Elizabeth - Harriet Melora Hayball/Smith - 27 September 1860 - 30 July 1921 Logan Cache Utah.
She was married to Ralph Hodgetts Smith on November 16, 1882 in Salt Lake City, Utah.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZGJ-F5V
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/M7FJ-GQM
http://history.lds.org/overlandtravels/pioneerDetail?lang=eng&pioneerId=85124563835250193040
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http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=76309958&ref=acom
Husband:- Ralph H Smith 1860 - 1928
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=76310066
Sandra
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Daughter Elizabeth Ann Hayball - 11 January 1865 - 4 Dec 1866 Ogden, Weber County, Utah.
Eliza Jane Hayball - 4 Nov 1866 - 23 June 1953
Married David Evans Wilson - 21 Dec 1885
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRLC-1KS
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/M7FJ-LBG - lists children
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http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=72025175&ref=acom
Husband :- David Evans Wilson 1843 - 1927
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=72024967
Sandra
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Daughter Charlotte Lotte Hayball - 8 November 1867 - 19 December 1923 Logan cache Utah.
Married Timothy Bowen Davis 22 June 1887
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZG2-CHB
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/MW9T-LTM - lists all the children.
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http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=91180201&ref=acom
Husband Timothy Bowen Davis - 1842 - 1916
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=DAVIS&GSfn=TIMOTHY&GSiman=1&GScid=77314&GRid=91180189&
Sandra
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Daughter - Fanny Pearl Hayball - 19 November 1876 - 23 June 1953 - Ogden Weber
Married John Parry 26 May 1900
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRLC-CMN
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRLV-Y1N
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/M7FJ-G75 - lists children.
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http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=106786844&ref=acom
Husband John Parry 1874 - 1934
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=106786747
Sandra
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This is an example of following the line forward.
Obituary for Leland Wayne Hayball born 22 May 1919 and died 2 February 2000.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=95063658
http://news.hjnews.com/article_80b07150-d3d3-5cc1-a5ef-9cd89d6afc5b.html?mode=jqm
Leland was the son of Lealand Kearl Hayball 1893 - 1961
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=91738880&ref=acom
WW1 Draft - is available on the family search site for leland Hayball born 1893
Newspaper report of Accident - 16 October 1961
http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/9806188/
Leland Kearl Hayball was the son of Henry James Hayball 1858 - 1915
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=29265841
Sandra
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If you find documents on the family search site you can request copies (free of charge) - up to 5 requests per month - might take a few weeks because of the demand.
Here are the details of photo-duplication and what to do - hope this helps your friend.
https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services
Utah Death certificates 1904 - 1956
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1747615
Utah Marriages 1887 - 1966
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1675546
http://www.cyndislist.com/us/ut/bmd/
Sandra
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I’m not sure if there might be two Moses Hayballs involved here born around the same time in the same place, are we sure of which one end up in Utah? Or did both end up in Utah? (Edit it looks like someone here confirmed there was two born around the same time)
I have Moses marrying Sarah Littlejohns in 1857 in St Helier. I can’t find anything for Sarah after this date. Father is James Hayball - occupation Gardener
In 1860 there is also a death of Mary Ann Hayball in St Helier (she was also born in1860) - parents Moses Hayball and Mary Ann Quarm
Funnily enough many of the Quarm family from St Helier also end up in Utah.
Are we sure we are not mixing up the two Moses born around the same time here. Did both go go Utah? There seems to be a lot of crosses of marriages so I think these two Moses may be getting mixed up here.
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So I definitely think the two Moses have been mixed up here.
Moses who married Sarah Coombes appears to be a labourer/lace manufacturer I believe he is the son of Philip and I don’t believe he is the one who ends up in St Helier.
Moses who ends up in St Helier (the gardener) and son of James married Maria Hawker he is with her in 1841 in St Helier. When she dies sometime in St Helier he then marries Dorcas Thomas and lastly Sarah Littlejohns. Although I haven’t been able to confirm if he also married Mary Ann Quarm in St Helier (there is a child born 1860 and died 1860 names Mary Ann Hayball to Moses Hayball and Mary Ann Quarm). I think this Mary Ann Quarm may be the daughter of Robert Quarm and Sarah Temperance Littlejohns who also ends up in Utah and dies shortly after her arrival.
It does look possible that both Moses (son of Philip and son of James) maybe ended up in Utah as there is a death in 1867 and a death in 1876.
I think the 1867 one is likely son of James and 1876 looking at age is likely son of Philip.
The Moses who goes to St Helier appeared to use a middle name Cook at one point.
This would explain the additional marriages in Utah as it’s actually both Moses that appear to be there around the same time. They are most likely cousins or close relatives at least.
I am not related to the Hayball family, but am descended from the Littlejohns family I mentioned hence my interest.
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Is there any connection to this thread - unusual name
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=850858.msg7184510#msg7184510
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Is there any connection to this thread - unusual name
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=850858.msg7184510#msg7184510
I’ve just replied above you, I found this thread after posting my post you have linked to above - I believe there is a connection. But I think two Moses born around the same time have been mixed up in this thread. One went to St Helier and one didn’t.
I am interested in the One who went to St Helier and particular Sarah Littlejohns and Mary Ann Quarm
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i think the two Moses Hayballs of Chard were first cousins. The one that went to Jersey married as Moses Cook Hayball s/o James . So that sorts him out. The Moses son of Philip went to USA it seems.
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i think the two Moses Hayballs of Chard were first cousins. The one that went to Jersey married as Moses Cook Hayball s/o James . So that sorts him out. The Moses son of Philip went to USA it seems.
I think both went to the US - there is one who died in 1867 and one who died in 1876 - so lots of confusing of the two. The one who married Sarah Combes didn’t go to Jersey, he is in some rest in the earlier census- when the one who married Maria Hawker is in Jersey.
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I am a direct descendant of the Moses Hayball who married Sarah Coombes. I have Dna data but need to establish whether "my" Moses was the son of Philip Hayball and Ann Forsey or of James Hayball and Sarah Cook. Any help appreciated. From Clinton Mann
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I am a direct descendant of the Moses Hayball who married Sarah Coombes. I have Dna data but need to establish whether "my" Moses was the son of Philip Hayball and Ann Forsey or of James Hayball and Sarah Cook. Any help appreciated. From Clinton Mann
I am pretty sure your Moses is the son of Philip Hayball and Ann Forsey, as I believe Moses who married my ancestor Mary Ann Sarah Quarm is the son of James Hayball. This Moses connected to my tree also married Dorcas Thomas and I believe Maria Hawker