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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Worcestershire => Topic started by: Mansl on Tuesday 14 October 14 20:18 BST (UK)
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I AM LOOKING FOR DIANA HAYNES OR HAINES BORN 1816 WICHENFORD.
I WONDER IF ANYONE COULD PLEASE FIND HER FOR ME IN 1861.IN 1863 SHE BECAME DIANA DANIELS.
ALAN
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Could she have been married before :-\
The only baptism I can see on familysearch in the parish of Wichenford for a Diana
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLF4-6C9
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Looks like she could have married James Haynes in 1834
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N29G-RWP
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her marriage entry to confirms her maiden name
Diana Haynes [Diana Spragg] widow m William Daniels 4 May 1863
Her father was Edward Spragg
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1841 shows her married to james with 2 children William 3 and Edwin 1 in Martley Worcestershire
HO107/1193/6 Folio: 26 p 9
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Yes Rosie she did marry James.She is with her husband James and children in 1851 along with lodger William Daniels who she married in 1863.They must have got divorced because James lived till 1897.
Alan
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Son John Haines is a visitor with the Daniels family in 1861
Class: RG 9, Piece 2090, Folio: 33, Page: 11.
claire
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They must have got divorced because James lived till 1897.
Divorce was very expensive ;D
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are you sure it is the same james. she gives herself as widow on remarriage.
there are quite a few james death which could fit
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I found James in 1871 says he's a widow RG10/3043 Folio 98 Page 5.
1881 RG11/2919 F95 P8
1891 RG12/2322 F85 P7.
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He said he was married in 1861 which I suppose he was even though Diana was not with him.
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In 1871 James has his son with him(although I cant see at this moment which son it was) that is why I thought its the same James.
In 1881 Diana is down as ANN. RG11/2915 F65 P18.
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Hi
Wonder if the ANN with William Daniels in 1861 is Diana ? Birthdate wrong though ???
Class: RG 9, Piece 2090, Folio: 33, Page: 11
claire
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Well I have decided that Diana is with William in 1861 as Ann I can't quite work out how old she is it might be 44 and I think those are their children although they didn't get married until 1863.I cant find a marriage for William to a Ann between 1851 and 1861 in Worcestershire or Herefordshire.Also he said he was single when they married.
Alan :)
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Hi There
I think it would be a good idea to have a look at the marriage cert as that will give the fathers & may help you to trace the correct family rather than risk following the wrong line
Good luck
All the very best
Phil
Weston-super-Mare (born Worcester City)
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Hi Alan,
In 1861 Diana was living in Worcester. She also went by
the first name of Ann. I am a descendant of James
Haynes. He died in 1897. I do have details of when and
where they (William and Diane)were married.
thenance
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Hi Thenance. Welcome to Rootschat.
I do know James and Diana were married 3/11/1834 at St Swithins,Worcester.
Diana went on to marry William Daniels in 1863 all though she said she was married in the 1861 census.
It looks like while William was their lodger in 1851 census it led to them getting together while she was still with her husband James.The three children Thomas,James and Joseph born from 1853 onwards were Williams.Maybe she was divorced before 1853.
Alan
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Hi Alan, from what I have been able to find, when she married William, she said she was a widow which we know was not true.
Marriage on the 4th May 1863 Saint Peters Church Worcester
William Daniels aged 37 a Bachelor occupation Labourer living at Little Park Street Father Thomas Daniels a Labourer.
Diana Haynes aged 44 a Widow living at Little Park Street Father Edward Spragg a Blacksmith
Witnesses: Henry Jones (his mark x) & Hannah Daniels (sister / mother?)
William Daniels made his mark x Diana Haynes signed.
I do know that the son that appeared on the 1871 census is her son with James. His name was John and he was my great grandfather.
Where do you fit into the tree?
Nancy
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Thank you for the extra details I didn't have the occupations nor the Witnesses.
I am not really related but I will explain if you can understand me.
My fathers mother married Albert John Brown but he died 3 months later she then married my granddad.
Albert John Brown's father was John Brown.
John Brown's brother was James Brown who married Esther Herbert the daughter of Mary Ann Haynes your great grandfathers sister.
I was interested to follow the Haynes family because my mother's grandfather Frederick Haines married a Keziah Daniels in 1886.So I wanted to see if the my Daniels or the Daniels that Diana married into connected.(Haynes and Haines are often spelt either way).
Alan :)
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I don't see any connection on my end. Thanks.