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Title: Selina Stenson
Post by: dimpsy on Sunday 12 October 14 16:31 BST (UK)
One I have been struggling with for a while!!

Selina Stenson b 1835/36 married William Davy aged 19 in 1854. He unfortunately died aged 34.

Selina Davy then married John Blagg in 1962 from what I understand is that he then deserted her 4 month later?? anyone able to clarify??

In 1871 I have found a census showing Letina (selina) married to a Jacob Booth and have 2 children named Kate and Emily, with Mary Ann being a lodger?? However this is Selina's other daughter with William??

In later Census she is back being Selina Blagg??

I am just confused with Selina and hoping someone is able to give me the information and clarity I need to move forward.

Many Thanks in advance.

Amy
Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: lizdb on Sunday 12 October 14 19:31 BST (UK)
Just trying to work through systematically

1841
HO 107 600 22
She is 5 yr old in Raby Leics with (presumably parents) William and Charlotte and siblings

1851
HO 107 2084 5

She is 15 yr old niece, bn Raby Leics


1861
RG 9 2285. 58 19
59 Richard Street  Leiceste
William Davy 34 locomotive engine driver
Selina 25 wife bn Ratby
Mary Ann 4
William 2
Elizabeth 8 mths

Marriage
Jul/Aug/Sep 1854
Ashby de la Zouch
7a 133
William Davey/ Selina Stenson

So far, so good.

There is a death for a William Davey in Leicester Oct/Nov/Dec 1865, no age in index.
If this William he would be about 38

But this couldnt be his death, if Selina remarried in 1862! He must have died before then.











Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: lizdb on Sunday 12 October 14 19:46 BST (UK)
Marriage
Oct/Nov/Dec 1862
Leicester
7a 466

Selina Davy/ John Blagg

Have you got this certificate to be sure it is the same person?


The 1871 census looks as if she is living with Jacob Booth as his wife, but I cant see any marriage.
 
You wont be able to confirm exactly when her marriage to Blagg failed , but clearly before 1871.

Presumably her relationship with Booth then failed too.
Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: ..claire.. on Sunday 12 October 14 19:47 BST (UK)
Hi

Couple of mentions in the newspaper

The Leicester Chronicle : Saturday, December 13, 1862

TOWN HALL, YESTERDAY

TRANSFER: The license of the Rose and Crown, Humberstone Road, was transferred from Selina DAVEY to John BLAGG

****

The Leicester Chronicle: Saturday, January 31, 1863

TOWN HALL, MONDAY

TRANSFER:  The license of the Rose and Crown, Humberstone Road, was transferred from John BLAGG to Joseph Large.

claire
Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: dcbnwh on Monday 13 October 14 09:58 BST (UK)
The family is on my tree but I haven't looked at it for a while.

This morning, I found that Emily Blagg married Arthur Taylor in 1889 and is in Black Friars Street in 1891, with a daughter, Mary.

Kate married Charles Armstrong in 1888 and is living in Friars Causeway - no children.

Mary Ann Davy married William Lay and William Davy married Fanny Chambers. I have no marriage for Elizabeth.

David
Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: Annie65115 on Monday 13 October 14 16:20 BST (UK)
This looks like William Davy's burial in Welford rd, plot no. uO 256

DAVY WILLIAM   buried 1861   JUL   14   30   RICHARD STREET   SAINT GEORGE   

he's buried with the following:

UNWIN   ---   1856   OCT   10   STBN     MILTON STREET   SAINT MARGARET   (CHILD OF MRS UNWIN)

DAVEY   MARY ANN    1856   OCT   10   17MTHS   WOOD STREET   SAINT MARGARET presumably William's and Selina's daughter   

STENSON   THOMAS ALFRED   1862   JUL   9   3WKS   RICHARD STREET   SAINT GEORGE   Now who was this? The road name is the same but no house number given. If this child was Selina's, I would expect it to have Selina's married name.

Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: Annie65115 on Monday 13 October 14 16:25 BST (UK)
The inquest on William's death is in the papers; Leic Chronicle, Sat 13 July 1861. He died in a work accident at Matlock, which is why his death isn't recorded on FreeBMD in Leicester.

Deaths Sep 1861   
Davy    William        Bakewell    7b   341

Emily's birth:
Births Jun 1869   
Booth    Emily Stenson        Leicester    7a   241
Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: lizdb on Monday 13 October 14 16:32 BST (UK)

   

STENSON   THOMAS ALFRED   1862   JUL   9   3WKS   RICHARD STREET   SAINT GEORGE   Now who was this? The road name is the same but no house number given. If this child was Selina's, I would expect it to have Selina's married name.

She doesnt marry Blagg till Oct/Nov/Dec 1862

Child age 3 wks in July, born June, conceived Sept 1861 ish. After William Davy's death, so not his child.

But maybe not Selinas child at all.
Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: Annie65115 on Monday 13 October 14 16:39 BST (UK)
Selina's name from marriage to William would have been Davy until she married someone else; I don't think an illegitimate child would have taken her maiden name when she had given it up.

Maybe Selina had a sister or a sister in law who was staying there.

Kate's birth
Births Jun 1871   
Booth    Kate        Leicester    7a   242

This is the only Selina Blagg in Welford Rd, plot cO 2869

ARMSTRONG   CHARLES   1899   APR   age 15   40   ANDREW STREET   LEICESTER
BLAGG   SELINA   1904   NOV   19   age 72   71 BEATRICE ROAD   LEICESTER

Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: Annie65115 on Monday 13 October 14 16:44 BST (UK)
In 1871, Selina Booth and family were living in Talbot Lane.

In the Leic Chronicle of Sat Feb 12 1876, Selina DAVEY of Talbot Lane was a witness to a robbery.

There are no burials in Welford Rd for a Selina Davy/Davey/Davie

Emily and Kate, whose births seem to have been registered as Booth, seem to have reverted to being called Blagg by 1881 and may have married under that name; I can't find any trace of them as Booth on freeBMD.

Jacob Booth seems to have been lodging with a family in Cheshire in 1881.

Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: dcbnwh on Tuesday 14 October 14 09:59 BST (UK)
 Re the burial of Charles Armstrong, could the age given as 15 be the date? He is recorded as 59 in the index and was Kate Blagg/Booth's husband.
 In the next two censuses, she is recorded as a widow, living with her son, Charles, who was born Q3 1891.
 A probable death for Kate - Dec 1959 in Leicester.

Emily had at least six children - Mary, Clara, Arthur, Nellie, Emily and Lizzie.

It would be interesting to see who is recorded as the father on the two marriage certificates.

David
Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: dcbnwh on Tuesday 14 October 14 10:44 BST (UK)
 Re my previous message, I have found Charles Armstrong's army record, which shows that his mother was Kate Shelton of 31 Bassett Street. Kate married George Shelton in Q1 1912.

There is a probable death for Kate in March 1957

Initially, Charles was  in the 11th Leicestershire regiment but then transferred to the 16th Yorkshire and Lancashire, when he gave his home address as that of his wife's parents.

He married Ethel Horner on 11th November 1916. She was the daughter of William Horner and Susannah Glover.

There are four possible births for children - Charles 1920, Evelyn 1921, Edward 1926 and Alan in 1927.

David
Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: willsy on Thursday 16 October 14 20:26 BST (UK)
Can help with the baptism mentioned earlier and it isn't Selina's child

St George
STENSON   THOMAS ALFRED   1862   THOMAS & SARAH JANE   03-Jul
Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: willsy on Thursday 16 October 14 21:11 BST (UK)
Marriages for the girls

1889   03-Aug   St Nicholas   
BLAGG   Emily      
TAYLOR   Arthur

1888   24-Dec   St Nicholas   
BLAGG   Kate      
ARMSTRONG   Charles

And found baptisms there also

DAVY    EMILY 12-Aug 1874   
WILLIAM & SELINA   

DAVY    KATE    12-Aug   1874   
WILLIAM & SELINA   

DAVY    ELIZABETH  31-Aug 1874   
WILLIAM & SELINA   

DAVY    MARY ANN    31-Aug 1874   
WILLIAM & SELINA   

Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: willsy on Thursday 16 October 14 22:11 BST (UK)
Birth for William going on Emily's birth

WILLIAM STENSON DAVY
1959 7a/185 Leicester

1898   02-Jul   Leicester, St Paul   
DAVEY   William Stenson         
CHAMBERS    Fanny

William jnr? father William S Davey
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name:    William Stenson Davey
Gender:    Male
Residence Place:    43 Gray St, Leicester
Document Year:    1914
Regimental Number:    353263
Regiment Name:    Battn Leicester??
Number of Images:    18
Form Title:    Territorial Force Attestation

William snr journeyman tailor 1881
RG11/3117 Folio 17 Page    4

Have you seen the Mary Ann Davy marriage ? as F**
1875 7a/339
CHARLES ANDERSON or ALFRED ASHLEY

The nos have been mixed up when indexing, both are register office weddings

From freebmd
Marriages Sep 1875 
DAVY    Mary Ann        Leicester    7a   399    
DRIVER    Joseph Henry         Leicester    7a   399    
Lay    William         Leicester    7a   399    
MORGAN    Matilda         Leicester    7a   399

Searching to find a bit to unravel from my records
1875   3 7a   339
St Margaret    11-Jul
ASHLEY   Alfred            
NICHOLS   Mary Elizabeth

I have them as
1875   3   DAVY    Mary Ann   7a   399
1875   3   MORGAN   Matilda   7a   399

wasn't sure if you were just looking at the index or had a bit more info


Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: willsy on Thursday 16 October 14 22:29 BST (UK)
Just found this so forget my madness

1875   3 7a   339   11-Jul   St Margaret   
ANDERSON    Charles
CARTER   Mary Ellen


Title: Re: Selina Stenson
Post by: dcbnwh on Friday 17 October 14 09:40 BST (UK)
Thank you for posting the above.

Re the BMD in 1875 Mary Ann Davy married William Lay and had six children - Elizabeth, William, Edwin, James Forester, Selina and Kate.

It looks as though Kate and Emily were registered as Booth at birth, married as Blagg but baptised as Davy.

David