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Will someone be able to find a marriage between John Jose and Zuila A ?
In 1940 John Jose was living at Ward 1, Detroit, Detroit City, Wayne, Michigan, United States age 45.
The John Jose that I am interested in lived in Cornwall,England and his parents were John and Mary Jose.
John Jose emigrated in 1920.
John had a brother called William J Jose who emigrated in 1922. Still trying to find info about him.
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Hi,
He was living in Highland Park, Wayne, Michigan - 1930 and single - William J is also living there.
Highland Park, Wayne, Michigan 1930
Annie Sims 46
William J Jose 41 Born Eng. Immigrated 1922. Tool maker at Auto Factory.
William Brisk 42
John Jose 36 Born Eng. Immigrated 1920. Blacksmith at Auto Factory.
Sandra
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The son on the 1940 census - John Jose was born 10 September 1936 and died in California 14 November 1989 - San Luis Obispo - Mothers maiden Name Alberta.
Sandra
Added The above John Jose is not the correct John - John/Johnny Jose born 9 May 1937 in Michigan. Died 19 Nov 2006 in Oxnard, Ventura Co., California.
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Yet there is a death for Zuila Jose born 9 Dec 1913 and died 5 th June 1986 - San Bernadino California. Mothers maiden name :- Potter Father Young. According to SSDI her SSN was issued in Michigan (Michigan (1951-1952)
Wonder if A was just a middle name Alberta ???
John Jose 10 Feb 1895 died Jan 1972 - Last Residence: 72422 Corning, Clay, Arkansas
Sandra
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There is a 1934 City Directory entry for Zuila Young - r 750 Malleable Flint Michigan. So marriage later than this.
The couple are listed Royal Oak, Michigan, City Directory, 1953 - 3671 Kingston av O I Pk I - Royal Oak; Ferndale, Michigan - John is a Hammersmith. Can't see listing between 1935 - 1940 ???
Sandra
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There is an entry Flint, Michigan, City Directory, 1936 for John Jose (Suella) blksmith r 1716 Berent.
John Jose blksmith is also at that address in 1934 - No Zuila.
Sandra
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Have you got an exact date of birth for William ??? There is a William James Jose born 14 April 1889 died March 1971 - aged 81 years - - Torbay Devon - 7a 2432 - could this be William ???
Sandra
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Possible WWII draft registration card for John - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J43M-HVT
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I looked at the draft registration and he is the correct John Jose. His sister Ethel Jose married James Kitto in the US in 1929. I found details of that marriage in the newspaper FindMyPast.
Can't quite make out the christian name but surname is Kitto for the 'person who will always know your address.
Have you got an exact date of birth for William ??? There is a William James Jose born 14 April 1889 died March 1971 - aged 81 years - - Torbay Devon - 7a 2432 - could this be William ???
Sandra
I am sure that he isn't the correct William Jose.
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It looks like Ethel Kitto on the draft registration card.
William's border crossing from 1922 has his middle name as James and says he was going to join brother J. Jose, Highland Pk., Detroit, Mich. 362 Eason Ave. was written in. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X2PR-S2X
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Thanks for the replies Sandra and shellyesq.
I looked at the draft registration and he is the correct John Jose. His sister Ethel Jose married James Kitto in the US in 1929. I found details of that marriage in the newspaper FindMyPast.
Can't quite make out the christian name but surname is Kitto for the 'person who will always know your address.
Have you got an exact date of birth for William ??? There is a William James Jose born 14 April 1889 died March 1971 - aged 81 years - - Torbay Devon - 7a 2432 - could this be William ???
Sandra
I am sure that he isn't the correct William Jose.
Wondered if that birth date was very close to your William's ???
Sandra
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Not Ethel Kitto we are looking for but just to mention she is listed on FIND A GRAVE
23 Feb 1904 - 8 Feb 1969
Burial: Gracelawn Cemetery Flint Genesee County Michigan.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=51612215&ref=acom
Sandra
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Isn't this William returning to the UK?
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists-Arrival Aug 7,1932 from Montreal Quebec-William JOSE Occ:Toolmaker Age 43-ship Aurania. Going to Bolinowe? Farm,Troon,Cornwall.
Maureen
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
Jose-William James of Bolenowe Farm Troon Camborne Cornwall died May 25 1942 at Romford Essex. Administration Bodmin 25 July to Mary Jose widow.
Maureen
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Thanks everyone for the information. So much in a short time. The only thing not found is the marriage of John. I see that in 1940 that John is 45 and his wife is 26 so there are quite a number of years between them.
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
Jose-William James of Bolenowe Farm Troon Camborne Cornwall died May 25 1942 at Romford Essex. Administration Bodmin 25 July to Mary Jose widow.
Maureen
He is the brother of John Jose.Isn't this William returning to the UK?
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists-Arrival Aug 7,1932 from Montreal Quebec-William JOSE Occ:Toolmaker Age 43-ship Aurania. Going to Bolinowe? Farm,Troon,Cornwall.
Maureen
That is the farm that the family lived on.
Not Ethel Kitto we are looking for but just to mention she is listed on FIND A GRAVE
23 Feb 1904 - 8 Feb 1969
Burial: Gracelawn Cemetery Flint Genesee County Michigan.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=51612215&ref=acom
Sandra
I think that it is a sister to John and William Jose because there is a James Kitto also in the same graveyard and they are the right age for that family.
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Hi,
There are no bmd registers or indexes for records in the USA. What is available varies County to County and State to State. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anything available for the time frame you require. Going through City Directories seems to suggest the marriage was between 1934 - 1936.
Sandra
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There's a marriage index for Gennessee Co. Michigan that seems to cover through 1934 here - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mifgs/marriages/index.html - but I don't see them on there.
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Thanks Sandra, MaureeninNY and shellyesq for your help.
Also thanks for the marriage index link. I agree with you that they don't seem to be there.
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Can't see an e-mail address at the moment but wondered if you wrote to the
Flint Genealogical Society PO Box 1217 Flint, MI 48501-1217 if they could help you.
Did read in this article that "Assistance is free, and volunteers are available at the archives, the library, and even the courthouse throughout the week" - could be worth a try ???
http://mycitymag.com/reaching-our-roots-flint-genealogical-society-follows-the-threads-of-family/
Sandra
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Thanks for the link Sandra. Will take a look.
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Best of luck, hope you can make progress.
Cheers
Sandra ;)
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
Jose-William James of Bolenowe Farm Troon Camborne Cornwall died May 25 1942 at Romford Essex. Administration Bodmin 25 July to Mary Jose widow.
Maureen
I have returned to this post to try to complete the Jose family.
Unfortunately I am unable to find William James Jose marriage to Mary?
He was single and living in Romford,Essex in 1939 register.
In 1939 he is living next to a family whose name is either Hitto or Kitto.
Will someone be able to look at the 1939 register to tell me which surname it is. If it Kitto it will explain why he went to Romford.
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We're not allowed to do lookups of the 1939 Register. However if you look up a marriage using the details from the free index, William J ?itto marrying a Bertha will give you the answer. ( As it happens the image doesn't really help ).
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The wording on the Probate Calendar may be a little misleading. I think the Administration was given to William James' mother Mary (who was a widow).
Maureen
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The wording on the Probate Calendar may be a little misleading. I think the Administration was given to William James' mother Mary (who was a widow).
Maureen
You may be right.
We're not allowed to do lookups of the 1939 Register. However if you look up a marriage using the details from the free index, William J ?itto marrying a Bertha will give you the answer. ( As it happens the image doesn't really help ).
Have put the christian names of both but haven't found anything yet.
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I have just found a marriage between William J W Kitto and Bertha Pearce in 1928 at Penzance Registration district. May or may not be the right couple.
Added: William Kitto died in Romford and Bertha in Penzance. I also found William Kitto in the probate calendar.
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Sister Ethel
Flint Journal
Saturday, Feb 08, 1969
Flint, MI
Page: 6
Obit: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01r93/
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Thanks for the information. I haven't looked at this family for some time.