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Title: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 09 October 14 20:53 BST (UK)

Can anyone find this couple in 1881.
 They have lots of children, but I`ve not put them down because they have probably left home by then. 
1851  HO107; Piece: 2241; Folio: 194; Page: 13
Clock Street Oldham above Town
Joseph Battamley  34 cotton spinner b Saddleworth Yorkshire c 1817
 Martha Battamley  34  b Humbry Yorkshire

1861 RG 9; Piece: 3022; Folio: 45; Page: 1
Roundthorn Road, Greenheys.Oldham
Joseph Bottomley  44 cotton spinner b Saddleworth Yorkshire
 Martha Bottomley  43 b Humbry Yorkshire

1871 RG10; Piece: 4100; Folio: 76; Page: 33
13 Nugget St, Mumps, Oldham.
Joseph Bottomley  54 brewer b Saddleworth Yorkshire
Martha Bottomley  53 b Huddersfield Yorkshire

1881 ????
Deaths
Joseph Bottomley Estimated Birth Year:abt 1817
Registration Year:1882  Quarter:Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death:65 Registration district:Oldham

Martha Bottomley Estimated Birth Year:abt 1817
Registration Year:1881  Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death:64 Registration district:Oldham
Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 09 October 14 23:20 BST (UK)
Straw clutching time - Could they be living with a married daughter and be wrongly shown under her married name?
Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: djm on Friday 10 October 14 00:10 BST (UK)
Try Lancs BMD at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Loads of Bottomley deaths in your time frame in Oldham



Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: heywood on Friday 10 October 14 00:33 BST (UK)
Hello,

The Joseph and Martha you mention are buried in the same grave in Greenacres Cemetery.

http://apps1.oldham.gov.uk/bacasweb/gensearch.aspx.

Other Bottomleys in the same grave are: George 38 yrs in 1875 and a baby James in 1859. Also in the grave are Hannah Wolstencroft and Annie Wood. Are these your family?

There are also addresses - Martha's is 21 Overens Street but she is not there in census.

Heywood
Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 10 October 14 14:09 BST (UK)
They did have a George of the right age, and Martha possibly  married a Wolstencroft in 1862.
I just can`t find them in 1881.  ???

1861 RG 9; Piece: 3022; Folio: 45; Page: 1
Roundthorn Road, Greenheys.Oldham
Joseph Bottomley  44 cotton spinner b Saddleworth Yorkshire
 Martha Bottomley  43 b Humbry Yorkshire
George Bottomley  23 self acting miner cotton b Oldham
 Sarah A Bottomley  22 winder cotton b Oldham
 Edward Bottomley  18  winder cotton b Oldham
Martha Bottomley  17 winder cotton b Oldham **** Wolstencroft  Benjn 1862 ??
John Bottomley  15 cotton piecer b Oldham
 Samuel Bottomley  13 cotton piecer b Oldham
 Emma Bottomley  11 nurse girl b Oldham
 Joseph Bottomley  9 cotton piecer b Oldham
 Sarah Bottomley  7 scholar b Oldham
 Eneas Bottomley  son  5 scholar b Oldham
 Mary J Bottomley  3 b Oldham
 Fred Bottomley  1 b Oldham
Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: heywood on Friday 10 October 14 15:04 BST (UK)
No I couldn't either  :)
Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 October 14 18:05 BST (UK)
I couldn't find them either hence my "straw clutching" reply.
Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: heywood on Friday 10 October 14 18:27 BST (UK)
1879.   21 Nutter Street. Mary Jane B marries father Joseph Publican

1881.    21 Nutter Street Welcome Inn. Ogden family

1881.     21 Overens Street.  Martha Bottomley burial

1881.      21 Overens Street.  Smithies family

1881.      23 Marsh Street     Riches family

1882.    23 Marsh Street Joseph Bottomley burial


I can't see any JB or MB in workhouse either.



Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 11 October 14 12:31 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone, but I am stumped. This is only thing I can find.
Marriages Dec 1879   
ATTERSALL  Ben    Oldham  8d 827   
BOTTOMLEY  Mary Jane     Oldham  8d 827   

1881 Mulberry St
Ben Attersall  29
Mary J. Attersall  23

On the same page is  a Joseph Bottomley  37 , but he is not father, and doesn`t seem to be a brother. His age isn`t right.
Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: heywood on Saturday 11 October 14 19:00 BST (UK)
That's the marriage I was referring to:

Mary Jane Bottomley 23 yrs 21 Nutter Street father Joseph Bottomley Publican

George Bottomley's address on burial is Nutter Street
Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 11 October 14 19:34 BST (UK)
Benjamin and Martha Wolstencroft baptise a Hannah in 1863 in the parish of Glodwick within Oldham - this might be the one sharing the grave?.
Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: heywood on Saturday 11 October 14 19:39 BST (UK)
And in 1891 Benjamin Wolstencroft is a publican at 21 Nutter Street  :)

1881 the Wolstencrofts are across the road from the Attersalls in Mulberry Street
Title: Re: 1881 Joseph and Martha Bottomley
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 11 October 14 22:21 BST (UK)
An Emma Bottomley marries in Q2 1871 - possible spouse is John Wood. There's an Emma Wood the right age, with husband John in a Court off Nutter St on 1881, with children Mary J and Martha (both born New York!).

john and Emma Wood of No1 court, Nutter St, baptise a daughter Annie in Jan 1881. There's also a death of an infant Annie on FreeBMD in the same quarter. Might be the other occupant of the grave?