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Title: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: chezbrunetfrance on Tuesday 07 October 14 19:08 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out if Joseph Currall md to a Clara Currall (nee Colefield) emigrated to Australia between 1901 (last UK census, living in Wavertree, Liverpool with his mother Elizabeth and siblings) and 1911 as I cannot find him on any UK Census.  He was born in 1874 to parents Joseph Currall (b. 1846) and Eliza ! (Elizabeth) Chamberlain b. 1848 Queensferry, Cork, Ireland.  They married in Cork but Joseph was born in Portsmouth, UK. They then lived in Northampton and lastly in Liverpool.
The 1901 Census shows Joseph living with his mother and Clara living with her parents with their children.  On the 1911 Census I can find Clara Currall, Joseph Hugh Currall and Dorothy Clara Currall living with her sister in Poulton with Seacombe, Cheshire and she is described as married living on 'Private Means'.
I can also find Clara moving between the UK and Australia with her children a couple of times but nothing for Joseph.  Cannot find a registered death either :-(
If anyone can help I would be very grateful, thank you in advance
regards
BarbaraAnn
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: Neil Todd on Tuesday 07 October 14 20:36 BST (UK)
Can I ask please why Australia and not any of the other possible countries, did he have relies here? Also with him leaving his wife there is the possibility of assumed names and actually not wanting to be found.

Neil
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: Neil Todd on Tuesday 07 October 14 20:42 BST (UK)
There is a death registered in NSW for a Joseph Hugh CURRALL with  parents Joseph and Clara ::)
possible son ??? The registered number is 201024/1976 . Purchasing a transcription of this may lead you on to the father.

Neil
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: muss on Tuesday 07 October 14 20:50 BST (UK)
Hi
   WW1 record for Joseph Hugh Currall lists  his mother Clara as next of kin
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/

Muss
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 07 October 14 21:35 BST (UK)
I see from NSW BDM https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au that Clara CURRALL married Alfred M SARFATY in 1917 at Petersham reg 7539/1917


Death 1919 SAFFERTY Clara with father Joseph H and mother Mary at Petersham reg 14982/1919

regards,
   Ros


Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: Neil Todd on Tuesday 07 October 14 21:37 BST (UK)
There is also a death recorded in 1978 for a Percival CURRALL parents Joseph and Clara.
Ref #21530/1978 

Do you know if these are the children of your Joseph? Or a possible relative?

Neil
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 07 October 14 21:47 BST (UK)
Dorothy CURRALL married Cyril J BRADSHAW in 1922 at Ashfield reg 1666/1922

From ryerson's index  http://ryersonindex.net/search.php Dorothy Clara BRADSHAW died 22 Nov  1991 aged 93 late of Avalon.

I will look up the death notice

regards
  Ros


Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 07 October 14 21:54 BST (UK)
SMH 25 Nov 1991

BRADSHAW, Dorothy Clara -- November 22 1991 late of Avalon beloved wife of Charles (deceased)
 dearly loved mother and mother-in-law of J and A, much loved grandmother of D and R, B and R and P,  great-grandmother of Lance(deceased), L, L,L,L,L,J,N,T,Rosalie(deceased) and C   Aged 93 years at rest

will pm the names  :)
regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: Neil Todd on Tuesday 07 October 14 21:57 BST (UK)
Joseph Hugh married 1930 11421/1930
?Percival Married 1928 14234/1928

Neil

Will Pm Names
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 07 October 14 22:12 BST (UK)
 
Percival's divorce http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\1567521

From Ryersons Index,  Moana Hazel CURRALL died 7 feb 1990, aged 83 late of Katoomba

I'll look up the death notice

regards
   Ros

adding : No sorry something weird with the digitisation for just that death notice - when I click on it to enlarge it shows me a different person  ???.
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: Neil Todd on Tuesday 07 October 14 23:21 BST (UK)
Could be wrong Joseph Snr but.
Trove Newspapers. Death of J.H.R.(george) CURRALL son of the late Joseph Currall, possible brother to your Joseph Currall. Gives age in 1913 as 35 so born 1878.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/26885166?searchTerm=%22Joseph%20Currall%22&searchLimits=

Neil
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 07 October 14 23:36 BST (UK)
Well-found Neil  :)

Interesting that the notice was in W.A. papers.

I see there is a marriage on W.A. BDM http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/ 
1920   Joseph H CURRALL to Mary C.A. CAHILL at Northam reg 4

The newspaper announcement of marriage http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article27674339 refers to him as Harold, second son of Mr and Mrs A.E. CURRALL of Warwickshire England

adding:
A Joseph Harold CURRALL died in 1979 aged 89 - burial here http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00061988
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: Neil Todd on Tuesday 07 October 14 23:39 BST (UK)
Yes WA may hold something. There are a lot of CURRALL BDM's in that State. ???

Neil
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: Neil Todd on Tuesday 07 October 14 23:49 BST (UK)
I wonder if the Lieutenant acting Capt Joseph Hugh CURRALL is the same fellow he seemed to get into a bit of strife with officers Mess finances according to TROVE.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/140448186?searchTerm=%22Joseph%20Currall%22&searchLimits=

Neil
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: rosball on Wednesday 08 October 14 00:18 BST (UK)
There are various ads and legal notices in 1914 about Harry Joseph Robinson CURRALL who was mentioned in codicil of will of Joseph CURRALL.

Will being contested http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article79919250   (second column from right under heading LEGAL NOTICES)

Ad to ask if he was married or had children http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article120362213  (rightmost column)

The said Harry Joseph Robinson Currall deceased resided  at one
time or another near .Birmingham in England and at Nangeenan near Perth
in Western Australia respectively. He died in England on the 2nd August 1913.

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: Joseph Currall b. 1874 in Portsmouth Uk
Post by: rosball on Wednesday 08 October 14 00:38 BST (UK)
I think the Joseph CURRALL whose will is in question is the one who died 3 October 1908 in England,

CURRALL Joseph, of Laurel Grove, Sheldon Warwickshire and of Icknield Port Road, Birmingham, contractor, died 3 Oct 1908 at Laurel Grove.  Probate Birmingham 25 November  to John Joseph HACKETT secretary and director of Currall Lewis and Martin Ltd and to Edward Henry LEE solicitor.  Effects 34078 pounds.

John Joseph HACKETT  and Edward Henry LEE are the people mentioned as contesting the will.

regards,
   Ros