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Looking for the marriage of a James Mottershead(born Hulme) to Hannah(born Preston) in 1850's. There was a son Adam Spate Mottershead born around 1856 in Manchester. I cant find any records for him either.
They were in the Hulme area of Manchester in 1861 census with an Elizabeth Dean James was listed as Son. Siblings were George(1860), Harriet(1861), John Thomas (1864) and Robert(1869) None of the siblings appear to have Spate in their name so it is possible that Hannah was married before I cant find any records that match though.
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Hi
Just had a quick look at lancashirebmd.org, although not complete there is a Robert Mottershead born 1869 with mothers maiden name SPEIGHT
claire
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That sounds promising. Thank you
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was the son b 1850`s actually Adam - if so he was
Adam Spate-Mottershead - a double barrelled name - here is a daughters's baptism
on http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Baptism: 2 Feb 1879 St Matthew, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Hannah Spate-Mottershead - [Child] of Adam Spate-Mottershead & Mary
Abode: 12 Grove St.
Occupation: Calenderer
but - what is a Candelerer ??...new one on me that
ADDED- apologies - I put a sons baptism - it`s a daughter obviously - I have amended my post
but you must be delighted finding out Adam had a daughter as well ??
I think there should be an H in that occupation and he made Chandeliers ??
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If Hannah's mother was Dean - where does the mmn of Speight/Spate come from I wonder. Perhaps her mother was previously married
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2 more children for Adam Spate - Mottershead and Mary
Baptism: 2 Feb 1879 St Matthew, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Ralph Spate-Mottershead - [Child] of Adam Spate-Mottershead & Mary
Abode: 12 Grove St.
Occupation: Calenderer
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Baptism: 20 Mar 1881 St Matthew, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Ada Spate Mottershead - [Child] of Adam Spate Mottershead & Mary
Abode: 34 Tickle St.
Occupation: Calenderer
moved address by 1881
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is this your James Mottershead baptism ??
Baptism: 5 May 1836 St George, Hulme, Lancashire, England
James Mottershead - Son of William Mottershead & Elizabeth (formerly Weedall)
Born: 18 Apr 1836
Abode: Bk.Pryme St. Hulme.
Occupation: Carter
Notes: P. Baptism
if so ...he had a brother
Baptism: 3 May 1838 St George, Hulme, Lancashire, England
John Mottershead - Son of William Mottershead & Betty (formerly Weedall)
Born: 21 Apr 1838
Abode: Back Prime St. Hulme
Occupation: Labourer
Notes: P. Baptism.
Parents' Marriage: Witton near Northwich in 1822 ************************** good info
tells you when parents married and where - so 16 years previous ...so there has to be a few other siblings b 1822 - 1836 presumably in Witton Nr Northwich,Cheshire
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I thiink Elizabeth Dean is James' mother, not Hannah's. She's in Hulme in 1851 with husband Edward and 13yr old son James (surname Dean). There's also a marriage in 1844 Manchester involving an Elizabeth Mottershead and Edward Dean.
ln 1841 Elizabeth Mottershead with 7 yr old son James and Harriet, 15 is in Hulme
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if we have the right James Mottershead baptism in 1836 in Hulme - parents William and Betty
www.familysearch.org
mottershead
baptisms
1822-1836
witton
cheshire
result - all in Witton cum Twambrooks
Hannah 8th sept 1822
Betty 11th jan 1824 b 19th dec 1823
Mary 2nd oct 1825
William 25th may 1828
Thomas 12th sept 1830
Samuel 25th May 1834 - b 5th May 1832
Robert 25th May 1834
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Could this be Adam's birth?
Q1 1856 Chorlton Vol 8c, p600
SPIGHT Adam
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I think it could be Adam Mabel. I need to find the marriage of his parents to confirm.
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I have the marriage of Adam Mottershead to Mary Daniels in 1875.
Both Adam and his father James were given as Finishers this is something to do with manufacturing cotton as is the occupation of Callanderer.
I am still unsure as to the year of James Birth though.
According to various Censuses he is 7 in 1841
In 1861 he is 26 and in 1871 he is 45
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Further to my previous posts. I have discounted William Mottershead and Elizabeth Weedall as James parents . Their James died as a young child. I have also found the marriage of Elizabeth to a George Myers Hiscocks in 1844. With Samuel Weedall as her father.
I have also come across a strange thing - in 1850 the family appear to be listed twice on different pages and folio in Ancoats
Address 1 = Bengal St - Betsy Mottershead 17( Spinner), Mary Mottershead 15( Spinner) , Wlm Mottershead 13, Thos Mottershead 10, Saml 9, Ann Myers 1. Nr Shilling place and Shilling Court
Address 2 = Bengal - Gee Hescock 28 Wheelwright, Eliza Hescock 29, Eliza Mottershead 17(Spinner), Mary Mottershead 15(Spinner) William Mottershead 13, Thos Mottershead 11, Saml Mottershead 9, Ann Hescock 1 Near Jersey Street. They are also still together in 1850 with another son George. So I'm drawing a blank now. I found the marriage of Elizabeth Mottershead to Edward Dean in 1849 wigh Elizabeths Father with the surname Ogden. Any assistance would be gratefully received.
Sue