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Hi
Can anybody help me translate what is written on this card, it was my late fathers and we've recently come across it but have no idea what is for?
Many thanks
Debbie
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I could be wrong but I think it's a confirmation card.
I have my grandmothers from 1906 so hers is in English but similar size and also printed by Drogheda Independant.
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That means Confirmation literaly translated means going under the Bishop's hand.
Hope this helps it is probably a Confirmation card
Ronnie
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Top line Diocese of Meath.
So think I'm on the right track,
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Thank you, I suspected it may have been something to do with confirmation, does that mean it took place in the Diocese of Meath - dad was fostered so I'm trying to piece together his early years :)
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The Diocese is fairly big but yes it would he would have been confirmed somewhere within it.
I don't know if other dioceses even had these cards.
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when i went to school in the fifties the dot over the letters was prounced as h so ainim thoghta means name taken Albert Patrick Moore.
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May help with your research re Liam Mac Fhearghaile,perhaps Sinann can help with his ancestors card if this is the Bishops name or other
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/index.cfm?fuseaction=Go.&Surname=Carley
So i think in English his name is Liam Mac Carley looking at the Irish indexes this name is as rare as hens teeth best match seems to be M'Carley
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Mac FHEARGHAIL—IV—M 'Carrell, M'Kerrell, MacCarrell, MacKerrell, MacKerrall, MacCarroll, MacKarroll, Mackerel, Mackrell, &c.; a variant of Mac Fearghail, which see. Its anglicised forms are not always distinguishable from those of Mac Cearbhaill, which see. See also Mag Fhearghail.
http://www.libraryireland.com/names/macf/mac-fhearghail.php
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May help with your research re Liam Mac Fhearghaile,perhaps Sinann can help with his ancestors card if this is the Bishops name or other
her ancestors ;D
Mine doesn't have the bishop's name but even if it did the time difference is too great.
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The first cert also says Uimhir 1 and Onóracha which translate as Number 1 and Honours. Second cert also refers to an exam. I think this is a cert used to certify that the child in question had passed their catechism exam which was necessary to be able to receive Confirmation. The 1954 Catholic Directory lists Fr William Kirley as Diocesan Inspector of Schools in Meath. For anyone non-Irish, Liam is the Irish for William and Kirley seems close enough to some of the surnames listed above.
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Yes the card was issues as a result of the exam. My Gran told me they wore them around their neck on the day of comfirmation, she had been taken out of school when she was 10 (her mother died) so she was very proud of her pink card, (the grades were colour coded) it was the only exam she ever got a chance to take.
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Thank you for all the information, it's such a shame it doesn't say what school...... :'(
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Rev William Kirley
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~killoughey/Religious.html