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Rose born East Woodhay Hants 1888(9) married J P Cole 1913 had child Dorothy 1915. Was in Warlingham Hospital Surrey for two periods after. J P Cole divorced her in 1939 due to her mental state. She was represented by "a Guardian". Only child Dorothy died in 1942. I can find no trace of her after that. All her married life she appears to have lived in Pemdevon Road Croydon.
Cannot find any record of her death - have purchased 5 Death Certificates - all wrong. Checked cemeteries as far as possibel. How can someone just disappear? As her grandaughter I never met her but would like to know what happened to her.
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Hi,
Was she the daughter of Charles Harris and Mary Cummins ?
There is a WW2 Civilian Death 19 Feb 1944 - Croydon - Rose Mary Harris born 1891 (birth year slightly out) Father Charles Harris.
Rose Mary Harris aged 53 years of 16 Devonshire Road. Daughter of the late Charles Harris. Died 19 February 1944 at Queen's Road Homes.
March 1944 - 2a 975 - Croydon under Rose M Harris
Sandra
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it would help if you put which death certs you have there is a death in surrey dated 1975 but will likely be one of the ones you have purchased the name and date of which you have would be useful to help eliminate what you have got
chris
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This looks like Rose with father Charles and a mother Mary ??? Bakers Buildings East Woodhay, Hampshire. 1901
Charles Harris 54 general Agricultural Labourer.
Mary Harris 53
Florence Harris 14
Rose Harris 12 Born abt 1889.
Mabel Harris 9
Parents married 1866 - Q4 - Oct/Nov/Dec Hungerford - 2 c 523
The birth for Rose Harris was registered Dec 1888 - Kingsclere - 2c 223
Sandra
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It appears Charles Harris born 1848 died 1914 aged 66 years. - Redg Dist Kingsclere. Hampshire. 2 c 276.
Kingsclere fits with East Woodhay.
Anc tree is confirming the above details - so you have another researcher you may be able to contact.
Sandra
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Perhaps this was the hospital which may have been hit by a bomb - hence the entry as a WW2 Civilian Death. After her divorce Rose reverted to her maiden name.
The building was in use as a home for the destitute. Workhouse conditions prevailed until WW2, when the Homes became a Class 2 hospital under the Emergency Medical Scheme.
http://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/queens.html
http://bombsight.org/explore/greater-london/croydon/
Sandra
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i take it that you have seen the croyden page on ancestry saying she died in 1944
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Sister Mabel Harris appears to have died - Q3 - June 1916 - Kingsclere - 2 c 295
Sandra
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I have the Death Certificate of Rose MARY Harris Female 53 years of 16 Devonshire Road
She was the daughter of Charles Harris he was a Railway platelayer my gt grandad was an Ag worker. She had never been known as Rose MARY Harris in all papers i e birth certificate, census and marriage certificates. When in the Mental Hospital each occasion she is shown as Rose
Cole (nee Harris)
I have the above certificate and those of
Rose Cole of 84 Tavistock Place St Pancras died 9th January 1941
Rose Harris 1 Council Houses Bramshill 20th February 1957 widow of Charles Harris
7/5/1932 Rose Maude Cole marriage certificate (thought she might have remarried but due to her mental state I dont think she would have done.)
One problem is I dont know if she would reverted from her married name of Cole to her maiden name of Harris.
I have been looking about 15 years but will never give up hope!
Thanks everyone for help
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Hi,
Always give all the information you have when making an enquiry, it saves a lot of duplication and people wasting there time finding what has already been found previously.
http://www.croydononline.org/history/people/family/
It states on the enquiry above that Rose M Harris was buried Mitcham Cemetery Croydon - Have you been in touch with that Cemetery to see if they have further details of next of kin or who organised the funeral ?
Related Thread - Re Mental Hospitals :- http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=662439.0
Sandra
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the rose harris widow of charles harris is my great nan, from the council houses bramshill ,what information do you have please,as i am trying to search for a lost relative thankyou
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could you please tell me who signed the death certificate
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Hi bearrpam
I hope you can help out C4C, there is a topic here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=752234.0
which explains about Rose Harris