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Title: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: willow2670 on Thursday 30 June 05 21:53 BST (UK)
I know the area Madeley is in Shropshire, but is there also a Madeley in Staffordshire. Maybe it borders both Counties       ???

On the census's it says my 2 x GrGrandfather was born Madeley, Shropshire c 1832, but on another Staffordshire.

Can anyone please clarify this for me.

Many thanks
Sue
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: DMP on Thursday 30 June 05 22:38 BST (UK)
Hi Found this on GENUKI
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/Madeley/  i think there might be 2 as i have its on the 1851/41 Staffordshire census by newcastle under Lyme maybe when he said madeley the enumerator just put the one down he had heard of
Donna
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: willow2670 on Thursday 30 June 05 23:36 BST (UK)
Thanks Donna,
I found this one also on GENUKI
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/Madeley/index.html

My 2 x Grandparents  married in Staffordshire, but he's been so difficult to pinpoint    :-\

Sue
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: DMP on Thursday 30 June 05 23:40 BST (UK)
Hi Sue
I didn't know there where 2 of them until i look tonight if you need any thing from the staffordshire 1851/41 census for him let me know and i will have a look
Donna ;D
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: willow2670 on Friday 01 July 05 00:22 BST (UK)
Donna,
Thanks very much. This is very good of you. If you can, could you look for the following on the 1841 census?

William BURTON, (Parents unknown)born @ 1833 +/- 2 years Madeley, Shropshire?? The earliest sighting I have of him is on the Staffordshire, Wolstanton, 1851 census.
The 1851 transcription is:

1851 Wolstanton
Joseph Lightfoot Head 50 b Madeley, Staff
Mary  Wife 45 b Wydenbury, Cheshire
Elizabeth Dau 10? b Madeley, Staff
Andrew Son 10 ?? b Wolstanton
Philip Son 4 b Wolstanton
William Allen 23 Unm Lodger b Whitchurch, Cheshire
John Allen 22 Unm Lodger b Whitchurch, Cheshire
William Burton 18 Lodger b Wolstanton, Staff

Lightfoot & Allen play a key role in my family tree, so if you see them also, could you please give me the details?

Many thanks for your time.
Regards Sue
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: DMP on Friday 01 July 05 00:34 BST (UK)
there is loads of lightfoot's in madeley are there any names you are after
Donna
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: willow2670 on Friday 01 July 05 00:50 BST (UK)
Donna
The same family given in 1851. Daughter Elizabeth Lightfoot married John Allen (Lodger in 1851 census)

William BURTON married Sarah ALLEN, a sister of John Allen.
Marriage of William ~ Sarah Allen 1853 St Margret's, Wolstanton. Address given Knutton Heath

Sue
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: DMP on Friday 01 July 05 00:53 BST (UK)
will look in wolstanton could not see joseph,mary and daughter elizabeth in madeley
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: DMP on Friday 01 July 05 01:30 BST (UK)
found joseph and mary will keep on looking for william burton
joseph 35 y ag lab
mary 35 n
james 15 y coal miner
jesse 15 y   "
elizabeth 5
david 5
andrew 1mth
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: DMP on Friday 01 July 05 01:44 BST (UK)
will finish looking for you tommorrow
Donna
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: DMP on Friday 01 July 05 13:33 BST (UK)
sorry sue couldn't see him in the same area of wolstanton forgot to say he was not in madeley either
Donna :'(
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: willow2670 on Friday 01 July 05 13:47 BST (UK)
Thanks Donna,
It looks like I can now rule out Madeley Staffordshire.
Will try & find him in Madeley Shropshire.

Sue      :-*
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: ggrocott on Sunday 31 July 05 22:55 BST (UK)
Donna,

Hope you don't mind me being cheeky.
If you have access to the 1841/1851 census for Madeley, Shropshire would it be possible to look for a Benjamin Grocott/Growcott/Groucott/Groucutt born about 1810.  On later census birthplace is given as Madeley, Shropshire and Lady Bank, Shropshire.
Many thanks.

Gill
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: handm on Monday 01 August 05 20:07 BST (UK)
There is a Madeley in both counties. The Staffs one is  west of Newcastle under  Lyme, and the Shropshire one is part of Telford
handm
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: griffo on Friday 05 August 05 20:23 BST (UK)
Donna
The same family given in 1851. Daughter Elizabeth Lightfoot married John Allen (Lodger in 1851 census)

William BURTON married Sarah ALLEN, a sister of John Allen.
Marriage of William ~ Sarah Allen 1853 St Margret's, Wolstanton. Address given Knutton Heath

Sue
      Dont know wether you know or not Sue but Knutton Heath is
the old name for Silverdale
    Cheers Grffo
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: willow2670 on Tuesday 09 August 05 23:09 BST (UK)
Griffo & Handm,
Thank you for the info, I'm hopless  on the local knowledge        ::)

Sue

Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: goff153 on Wednesday 17 August 05 12:37 BST (UK)
Yes there are two.

The Shropshire one is now part of Telford, the Staffordshire one near Keele.

No connection between the two - they are miles apart.

Goff
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: jknowles on Friday 10 November 06 13:22 GMT (UK)
Sue

I am researching some Lightfoots in Madeley.

The earliest are 2 brothers

Thomas Lightfoot 1825-1907 1st married Elizabeth Cooper then a Caroline. Lived most of his life out in Onneley

William Lightfoot b 1830 m Mary Timmis, lived out life in Madeley although was in Onneley in at least 1851 census.

Any connection?

John

Donna,
Thanks very much. This is very good of you. If you can, could you look for the following on the 1841 census?

William BURTON, (Parents unknown)born @ 1833 +/- 2 years Madeley, Shropshire?? The earliest sighting I have of him is on the Staffordshire, Wolstanton, 1851 census.
The 1851 transcription is:

1851 Wolstanton
Joseph Lightfoot Head 50 b Madeley, Staff
Mary  Wife 45 b Wydenbury, Cheshire
Elizabeth Dau 10? b Madeley, Staff
Andrew Son 10 ?? b Wolstanton
Philip Son 4 b Wolstanton
William Allen 23 Unm Lodger b Whitchurch, Cheshire
John Allen 22 Unm Lodger b Whitchurch, Cheshire
William Burton 18 Lodger b Wolstanton, Staff

Lightfoot & Allen play a key role in my family tree, so if you see them also, could you please give me the details?

Many thanks for your time.
Regards Sue
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: willow2670 on Friday 10 November 06 22:52 GMT (UK)
Hi John
I cannot see a connection.
The Lightfoots in my tree lived in Knutton, Staffordshire 1841-1881.
Sue
Title: Re: Madeley, Shropshire or Staffordshire???
Post by: Toj on Wednesday 29 November 06 14:38 GMT (UK)
The Staffordshire Madeley is to the west of newxastle under Lyme , next to Keele University and the Keele M6 Service area.
The Shrpshire Madeley is now part of Telford New Town just between Telford town centre and Ironbridge