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Title: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: ian brum on Sunday 28 September 14 13:19 BST (UK)
Looking for information about my cousin Louis whose stone reads ' In memory of Louis, son of John Nash whose remains were found in N.Australia March 3rd 1885. Any ideas folks?
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: jacquelineve on Sunday 28 September 14 13:33 BST (UK)
Baptism..Louis Nash 8th April 1862 Market Rasen -Parents John + Elizabeth Nash

Jackie
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: jacquelineve on Sunday 28 September 14 13:50 BST (UK)
Also baptised at Market Rasen

Olive Nash 9th Feb  1860   John + Elizabeth
 John Arthur Hylton Nash 5th Sept 1861   John + Elizabeth

1861 census Middle Rasen Lincolnshire
John Nash    34    brewer + merchant    Dunholme Lincs
Elizabeth      28                                    Berkshire
Olive            1                                     Middle Rasen
John             3 mths                              .........
                                                                          Sub reg. district Market Rasen

Jackie
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 28 September 14 13:51 BST (UK)
1871 he is a Pupil at St Saviours College, Ardingley, Sussex.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: jacquelineve on Sunday 28 September 14 14:05 BST (UK)
Ian
        Try this link... Trove newspapers + search Louis Nash 1885

Http://ndbpeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

Jackie
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: jacquelineve on Sunday 28 September 14 14:07 BST (UK)
Sorry
            just http

Jackie
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: majm on Sunday 28 September 14 14:13 BST (UK)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3157668 Northern Territory Times and Gazette 30 May 1885

To all Constables of the Province of South Australia and to all others whom these may concern.

I, the undersigned Chas. W NASH, being one of HM’s justices of the Peace for the Province of Sth Australia, having made enquiries respecting the death of one Louis NASH, who died at Sherwin Creek on …. Day of October, 1884, do hereby certify that there is not , in my opinion, any necessesity for holding an inquest upon the body of the said Louis NASH, and that the body of the said Louis NASH may be buried.  Given under my hand the 9th day of May 1885,
CHARLES W NASH,  JP  Coroner

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: majm on Sunday 28 September 14 14:15 BST (UK)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/44533336 South Australian Register  15th May 1885

the cutting suggests he had relatives in Melbourne, (Victoria, Australia)

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: majm on Sunday 28 September 14 14:19 BST (UK)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3158002 Northern Territory Times and Gazette 25 July 1885

Public Trustee Notice re the deceased estate of the men, including Louis NASH.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: giblet on Sunday 28 September 14 20:28 BST (UK)
A long article concerning Louis and the other fella.

Louis Nash (whose remains were found and buried by Barnes in March last) was 22 years of age, about 6 feet 1 inch in height, fair complexion, medium build. He is the nephew of a lady named Jewry, who resides at Emerald Hill, Melbourne.

Full article on below link

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3157582?

Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: majm on Sunday 28 September 14 22:54 BST (UK)
Hi there,

following from giblet's find,

I wonder if this thread could be moved across to the Australia Board by a moderator?  I think it would likely catch the eyes of some of the Victoria and South Australia experts there.   

They may have more on the JEWRY family who resided at Emerald Hill, Melbourne;
and
they may be able to assist further with any possible link to the Charles William NASH, JP, Coroner to see if there's any family links there?

Re Charles William NASH, the coroner

There’s a South Australian birth for a chap of that name, a son of Charles NASH and Marion CAMERON, born 6April 1851, Kensington, Adelaide Sth Australia.
Charles NASH and Marian Hannah CAMERON were married in Adelaide, S.A., in 1850

http://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html

I will ask a moderator to consider moving the thread to the Australia Board  :)

Cheers,  JM


Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: sparrett on Monday 29 September 14 04:23 BST (UK)
Not much in the name JEWRY in Victoria, though there are more events in the spelling JURY which may be a corruption.

Mary Ann PAMPLIN married James JEWRY 
Yr. 1862 #3651.

There was a couple named  James JEWRY and Mary Ann SCANTLEBERRY who had a child in 1860's
And there were three infant deaths in the 1860’s one of whom was a child of James JEWRY and Mary Ann SCANTLEBERRY.

The names of other parents of deceased children were-
John JEWRY and Mary (Unk)
Simon JEWRY and Caroline (MASON)

Many years later, on the 1931 Electoral Roll, I find Catherine JEWRY living at 315 Montague Street South Melbourne which was formerly Emerald Hill.

Sue
 
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: giblet on Monday 29 September 14 04:41 BST (UK)
I got something here i think  ;D

VIC unassisted

Ship MELBOURNE Sept 1883

NASH LOUIS 21
JURY CHAS C 27
JURY HARRIET 25

Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: giblet on Monday 29 September 14 08:18 BST (UK)
Found him in 1871 in Sussex aged 9 as a pupil. Born Market Rasen, Lincolnshire.

Cant find him in 1881 tho.

[sorry just re read the thread and the 1871 census has been posted]
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 30 September 14 00:34 BST (UK)
More information from the shipping arrival to Melbourne.

Ship Melbourne arrived Melbourne 4th September 1883. From London via Cape Town.

JURY, Charles C.  Nil Occupation. Married. Aged 27 . British subject.
JURY, Harriet. Nil occ. Married. Aged 25. British subject.
NASH, Louis. Nil occupation. Unmarried. Aged 21 years. British subject.

Sue
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 30 September 14 07:40 BST (UK)
Ian, do you need more from Australia on your family?
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Tuesday 30 September 14 11:18 BST (UK)
Death registered 1885 at PALMERSTON NT:

Louis NASH
Date: 00/10/1885
Trade: Bushman
Usual Residence: Macarthur River
Place of Death: Roper River
Remarks: Sherwin Creek
Reg No: 19/134/1
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 30 September 14 23:23 BST (UK)
Looks like ian brum has been online, but he has not made any response to our research efforts so far.

Ah well, we can only hope it has been of interest to him and thrown a little light on his query. ;D

Sue
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: ian brum on Wednesday 01 October 14 00:10 BST (UK)
Hope this novice has finally found a way to publicly respond to all the wonderful help he's getting from you lovely people at rootschat. I've been sending pms , what a monkey!
Really building a picture of poor cousin Louis' five years in Australia and finding his family members there, thanks so much to you all.
Stupid Ian of Brum.
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: majm on Wednesday 01 October 14 00:20 BST (UK)
Dear Novice,

You are not Stupid.  You are just new, and once upon a time, so too were we all.   

I am not familiar with searching NT or SA, but I know you would like us to try to find a connection with Charles William NASH, the SA coroner mentioned in the newspaper report.   It could well be the same Chas NASH on the passenger list, with wife Harriett, and with Louis NASH that giblet has found.

But now you have found the reply button  :) so you are no longer a Novice....  :)  :)  :)

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 01 October 14 01:26 BST (UK)
Hi Ian,
Nice to see you're getting the hang of things now ;D

I am wondering whether Harriet JURY was formerly NASH and perhaps related to Louis NASH as a  sister or cousin.

I do not see any events in the name of the JURY couple in Victoria.


Sue

Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 01 October 14 03:23 BST (UK)


He might be Charles C JORY.

Charles Cleave JORY marrying....only son of the late J B...
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/139696258?

........other mentions to find in TROVE

died 12 July 1926......Will  to see on PROV site
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 01 October 14 05:32 BST (UK)


He might be Charles C JORY.

Charles Cleave JORY marrying....only son of the late J B...
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/139696258?

........other mentions to find in TROVE

died 12 July 1926......Will  to see on PROV site

For your interest, the Victorian marriage .

JORY Charles Cleave Birth Place ENGLAND
THOMPSON Annie Maria
 Year 1888
Reg   6584


And a second one-

JORY Chas Cleave- His Birth Place CORNWALL
ROWE Minnie
Year  1894
Reg.   5222

Sue

 
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: giblet on Wednesday 01 October 14 05:36 BST (UK)
John Arthur Hylton Nash 5th Sept 1861   John + Elizabeth

Unusual second name, HYLTON, wonder if it could be their mother's maiden name  ???
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 01 October 14 06:43 BST (UK)


Can you give some more information about Louis NASH b. 1862 so that we can find the aunt in Melbourne.

Who are his parents and brothers and sisters?.

Do you have siblings for his parents?
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 01 October 14 07:26 BST (UK)
I note the 1871 census- where we have found the details of young Louis NASH as a school pupil- also shows his brother John Arthur H NASH as scholar aged 10 years.

He is a boarder with-
John W. CRAKE (??) who is a teacher at the Grammar School aged 29.
His wife  Annie CRAKE is there  aged 43 with a son aged  3 and a daughter aged 2.
Also there is another scholar/ boarder, Alfred F BELE aged 13.
A servant lives in the house too

Sue


ADDING

I should have said the   schools attended by the brothers were different.
John NASH being in St Swithians Lincolnshire and Louis in Sussex

It looks as if their family, either by choice or otherwise, had sent them out to board.

Sue 
 
Title: Re: Louis Nash b 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire died c1885 N.Australia
Post by: ian brum on Wednesday 01 October 14 12:20 BST (UK)
Thanks again for all your help folks. what I have so far on Louis' family is:
Father John Nash born 22/4/1826 Dunholme, Lincolnshire died 1869 Market Rasen, Lincs.
Mother Elizabeth b 1833 Berkshire. She was possibly Elizabeth Frances Smith.
Louis himself born April 1862 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire
Brother John Arthur Hylton Nash born 1861 Middle Rasen, Lincolnshire
Sister Olive Nash born 1860 Middle Rasen, Lincolnshire
I will have to take a day or so off to collate all the information you kind folks have found for me and see how it all may tie in. My brain is starting to hurt! hehe