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Title: John Griffiths born St.Issells(saundersfoot) 1814
Post by: Griffl on Saturday 27 September 14 17:04 BST (UK)
Hia all,

I am just wondering if you could find a baptism for this man,
perhaps also him on the 1841 or 1881 if he survived till then?

he was born in St.Isells in 1814

his first child was born in Camrose,1837
I presume the mother died
as he remarried in 1842 if I remember rightly to a Rachael Griffith.

they lived in St.Issells for the 1851 census

but for the 1861+1871 they had moved to Swansea-Llansamlet

where John worked as a coal mine Engineer and Agent.

Wonder if somebody could use a bit of magic and find some more information for me please?  ;)
Title: Re: John Griffiths born St.Issells(saundersfoot) 1814
Post by: vronlady on Saturday 27 September 14 17:40 BST (UK)
1 poss baptism

John Griffiths bapt 7 Sep 1817 Haroldston St Issells Pembroke
son of Isaac & Elizabeth Griffiths   

incidentally I notice that on the 1851 census the first child born 1837 is down as stepson to john Griffiths so by that I am taking it he belongs to Rachel Griffiths - either illegitimate or from a first marraige
Title: Re: John Griffiths born St.Issells(saundersfoot) 1814
Post by: vronlady on Saturday 27 September 14 17:45 BST (UK)
poss 1881 census - storekeeper and widow on his own
Class: RG11; Piece: 5354; Folio: 40; Page: 24;
Title: Re: John Griffiths born St.Issells(saundersfoot) 1814
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 27 September 14 18:19 BST (UK)
In 1851 the son John Griffiths is listed as John's stepson so could this son have been Rachel's child pre marriage and the following have been John b 1814 living at Plumton?? Hall, St Issells

Richard Griffith    60 Shoemaker
Elizabeth Griffith 55
Thomas Griffith 30 Shoemaker
John Griffith 25 Blacksmith
Ann Griffith 20

Kay
   

Title: Re: John Griffiths born St.Issells(saundersfoot) 1814
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 27 September 14 18:33 BST (UK)
Baptism John Griffith 25 August 1814 at St Issell's  Parents Richard and Elizabeth of Stepaside. Richard is listed as a cordwainer


Title: Re: John Griffiths born St.Issells(saundersfoot) 1814
Post by: Griffl on Saturday 27 September 14 18:38 BST (UK)

ahhhh! I had asumed that John (child) was Johns full son and Rachael the Stepmother...
but of course its relation to the head...

Yes great that fits then thanks,
 


Wonder if you can see John (elder) on the 1881?
Sorry I also missed vrons post..
hmm the 1881 is slightly possible but I am just wondering hoe we got from engineer to shopkeeper?
Title: Re: John Griffiths born St.Issells(saundersfoot) 1814
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 27 September 14 18:59 BST (UK)
Sorry - I can't see either John or Rachel past 1871 at the moment

Edit-Sorry missed Vron's post which looks good
Title: Re: John Griffiths born St.Issells(saundersfoot) 1814
Post by: Orielbenfro on Sunday 28 September 14 08:35 BST (UK)
Richard Griffith married Elizabeth Griffith 1809 at St Issells. It is possible that Elizabeth was buried at St Issells having lived at Kingsmoor on the 9th January 1826.
Rgds
Owen Ap Benfro
Title: Re: John Griffiths born St.Issells(saundersfoot) 1814
Post by: Griffl on Sunday 28 September 14 11:03 BST (UK)
Richard Griffith married Elizabeth Griffith 1809 at St Issells. It is possible that Elizabeth was buried at St Issells having lived at Kingsmoor on the 9th January 1826.
Rgds
Owen Ap Benfro

Hi Owen Ap Benfro,

ooh, great
could you tell me where you found that marriage? I can't see it on FindMyPast haha
yes that is possible.

I am also wondering why the family went to St.Issells church where as they lived in stepaside which according to a parish map, isn't in the parish of St.Issells
Title: Re: John Griffiths born St.Issells(saundersfoot) 1814
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 28 September 14 12:04 BST (UK)
The marriage I can see in the parish in 1809 is for Elizabeth Griffith to Richard Hughes

Kay