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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: cathayb on Friday 26 September 14 15:28 BST (UK)
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william albert birch was born in putney in 1891.he is with his mother maria birch and his father joseph thomas birch in 1891 but by 1901 his father is missing and by 1911 he with with his mum and step father mr.carroll from ireland.
my problem is i cant seem to find a death for joseph thomas birch.infact the only joseph thomas birch i can find is in kent in prison and saying he was born in kent.i dont think this is the same joseph thomas but if anyone can sort this out for me would be much obliged.thank you.there is family stories that they were of gypsy stock but i can find no reason to assume this.again if anyone can show different it would help clear matters up.
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When did Maria marry Mr Carroll
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Am I looking at the right family :-\
1891 Westminster
RG12/452 f110 p35
Joseph Birch 28
Maria Birch 28
Annie Birch 7
John Birch 2
William Birch 1 month
1901 Westminster
RG13/83 f125 p72
Maria Birch 38
Annie Birch 19
John E Birch 12
Maria states she is married (bn Knightsbridge)
There is no sign of Joseph or William at the address
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This looks like it could be him:
1901 - Sunderland
Joseph Birch - head - 37 - house plasterer - London
Jane Birch - wife - 30 - Durham, Sunderland
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yes you have the right family.
1901 looks like he left his wife then if this is him.maria says on the 2011 cencus that she married mr carroll in 1903 but i havent found a marriage cert to know if they did marry.thanks for helping me.my friend knew there was a skeleton in the cupboard but wasnt sure what it was!!!
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i wonder where william was in 1901?possibly a boarder at a school or staying with other family.he is with them as birch in 1911 and the other are all carroll
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I wonder if this is Marias marriage ::)
September qtr 1912
Maria Birch (spouse Carroll)
Michael Carroll (spouse Birch)
Chelsea reg district 1a 1088
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This could be little William
1901 - Egham, Berkshire
Robert Scutt - head - 33 - Horsham, Sussex
Ada L. Scutt - wife - London
William Birch - nephew - 10 - London
Robert Scutt married Ada Louisa Birch - 1892 in Islington
Ada's father - Charles Birch - a tailor
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i am pretty sure thats marias marriage.i wonder if joseph had died by then or if it was a bigamist marriage,would be interesting to see if joseph thomas married his woman in sunderland at some point.
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This could be little William
1901 - Egham, Berkshire
Robert Scutt - head - 33 - Horsham, Sussex
Ada L. Scutt - wife - London
William Birch - nephew - 10 - London
Robert Scutt married Ada Louisa Birch - 1892 in Islington
Ada's father - Charles Birch - a tailor
Good find LilyM ;D
Egham is in Surrey though very close to Berkshire.
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hi
probably of little use, but my mother, Ethel (1918-2011) was a birch.
she used to tell me that her family were a mixture of Birch and Carroll.
my grandfather was John Birch.
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he may well be the john we have in the 1891 cencus.brother of William and son of maria who latered married mr.carroll.do you know his birth date and where he was born??