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Title: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dinkleman on Tuesday 23 September 14 05:44 BST (UK)
Bridget Grealy ,also spelt Graly or Greally  born Galway County Ireland transported for stealing clothing from employer ,arrived VDL 1849-07-23 ,sentenced to 7 years. Age estimated at 30 years.

John Phillips born Monmouthshire ,transported for stealing 2 rams ,arrived VDL 1842-11-24 ,sentenced to 10 years .Age estimated at 31 .

Got married at Macquarie Plains 15 July 1850 ,looking for details from marriage cert such as their parents names  ,  :) :D
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: cando on Tuesday 23 September 14 06:34 BST (UK)
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Bridget Grealy ,also spelt Graly or Greally  born Galway County Ireland transported for stealing clothing from employer ,arrived VDL 1849-07-23 ,sentenced to 7 years. Age estimated at 30 years.

John Phillips born Monmouthshire ,transported for stealing 2 rams ,arrived VDL 1842-11-24 ,sentenced to 10 years .Age estimated at 31 .

Got married at Macquarie Plains 15 July 1850 ,looking for details from marriage cert such as their parents names

The only marriage record I can find for John PHILLIPS in 1850 is one to Anne TILFORD at the Anglican Church at either Mudgee or Gulgong.

Where did you source your information eg the actual date of their marriage.

Cando
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dinkleman on Tuesday 23 September 14 07:25 BST (UK)
I got the info from familysearch.org results for Bridget Grealy ,event marriage,place Aust event range 1850-1851 Spouse John Phillips Country Australia Province Tasmania
Indexing Project [Batch] Number,C31043-5 System Origen ,Australia ODM ,GS Film number 1368245
 Dinkleman
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: sue21757 on Tuesday 23 September 14 07:50 BST (UK)
If you look under Convicts for Tasmania.
She married as Peggy Grealy.
She also arrived as Peggy Grealy age 35 single.
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 23 September 14 08:21 BST (UK)

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON15-1-5,318,212,L,80

Peggy GREALY  #59  35yrs single
Bridget GREALY  #60  30yrs single         same offence, sisters

brother Edward 17th Regiment

CON14 
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON41-1-22,172,65,L,80
Peggy GREALY   35yrs   Nov 8 1852 married John WEBB

CON14
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON41-1-22,172,170,L,80
Bridget GREALY    30yrs  married to John PHILLIPS   July 15? 1850
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 23 September 14 08:53 BST (UK)
Possible errors in records, but looks like Bridget m. John PHILLIPS, Bridget has sister Peggy and brother Edward.

This record, permission to marry, has John PHILLIPS m. Peggy GREALY 15 July 1850
http://digital.statelibrary.tas.gov.au:1801/view/action/nmets.do?

Colonial Tasmanian Family Links Detail
John WEBB m.  Peggy GRAYLEY    New Norfolk   1852

Children born to John PHILLIPS and Bridget GREALY   New Norfolk   1851 - 1859
(dau Margaret  #646045 at this site)





Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dinkleman on Tuesday 23 September 14 09:43 BST (UK)
interesting I thought maybe Bridget was using alias, I know she had 2 children 1 in 1853 no first name and 1856 who I believe is my great grandmother Minnie who I think was actually Margaret but I have yet to find a record of that
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: cando on Tuesday 23 September 14 11:50 BST (UK)
Read the request and thought NSW :-[ :-[

Information on all Australian certificates.
http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

Marriage
PHILIPS John  29 years
GREALY Bridget  30 years
15 Jul 1850
Registered at both Hamilton and Norfolk  Reg#106/1850

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I know she had 2 children 1 in 1853 no first name and 1856 who I believe is my great grandmother Minnie who I think was actually Margaret but I have yet to find a record of that
Dinkleman

I found five births on my resource.

Births
PHILLIPS James
Father John  Mother Bridget GRADY
12 May 1851
At New Norfolk  Reg#424/1851

PHILLIPS Margaret
Father John  Mother Bridget GRADY
12 May 1851
At New Norfolk  Reg#424/1851    Died 26 Dec 1865 14 years at New Norfolk.  Father John.  Reg#373/1865

PHILLIPS Name Not Recorded - female
Father John  Mother Bridget GRADEY
20 Feb 1853
At New Norfolk  Reg#865/1853

PHILIPS Name not recorded - female
Father John  Mother Bridget GRALEY
16 May 1856
At New Norfolk  Reg#1210/1856

PHILLIPS John
Father John Mother Bridget GRAILEY
18 Jul 1859
At New Norfolk  Reg#1666/1859

What is the age of your great grandmother Minnie on her marriage certificate and death certificate?

Cando

Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dinkleman on Tuesday 23 September 14 21:05 BST (UK)
that is WICKED ;D ;D .I never thought she had brothers and sisters , I have a copy of Minnies death cert and it tells me that Minnie was 29 when she married Thomas McDonald , born in Tasmania , I also have a copy of her marriage cert and it says she was 25,and is a widow ,so I looked and found her married to Thomas Roger Pearce in 1879 and widowed 1881 they had a son John James born 1880 , I have found quite a few age differences but it does say on birth cert for my gdad Neil McDonald that she could not write or read and the x is her mark . 
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: cando on Wednesday 24 September 14 00:48 BST (UK)
When and in which State did these events take place? 

Would you please type up ALL the information on Minnie and Thomas McDONALD 's marriage certificate.

Information on death certificates is often inaccurate.  Depends on the knowledge of the informant.

Were and when was your grandfather Neil McDONALD born?

Cheers :)
Cando
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dinkleman on Wednesday 24 September 14 03:52 BST (UK)
Hi Cando ,  details from cert are . New Zealand Births Deaths &Marriages ,Registration no 1883/234,  When and were married 1883 6th March , at Office of Register, Waverley New Zealand, Groom, Thomas McDonald ,age 27 ,Rank or Profession ,Labourer ,Bachelor, Birthplace , Boarhead Scotland. Residence ,present  Waverley and usual, Waverley, Fathers name Neil McDonald, Labourer. 
Mothers Maiden name , Maryann McDonald  nee Able,   not sure about mothers name at all very hard to read ,could say Marjorie or Maryjane or Maryann last name almost impossible to read could say Ald or Able or Alde really cant make it out .Bride Minnie Pearce ,25yrs, widow 24 sept 1881, born Macquarie Plains Tasmania, residence Waverley ,Usual Waverley ,Parents John Phillips Labourer  mother Bridget Graley,    ;D cheers Dinkleman
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 24 September 14 04:41 BST (UK)

Can you please give names of witnesses on that marriage certificate, 1883.

Do you have death certificate for Minnie....with "years in the country".
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dinkleman on Wednesday 24 September 14 04:50 BST (UK)
Names of the witnesses on cert are Miss Christine Bain ,Waverley  ,Alfred George Harris Waverley ,Blacksmith . Neil McDonald who is my gfather was born in NZ
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dinkleman on Wednesday 24 September 14 04:52 BST (UK)
Neil McDonald 8 Dec 1889 Waverley NZ
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dinkleman on Wednesday 24 September 14 04:53 BST (UK)
Minnies Death cert says 55 years in nz
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: wivenhoe on Thursday 25 September 14 10:15 BST (UK)

Is this the death of your Minnie McDONALD?

1931 / 6993  McDONALD Minnie  75yrs

and 55 years in New Zealand....so about 20 years old at arrival?

I think the first marriage certificate would be useful to you as it might have a Phillips as witness.

Where is Minnie buried?
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dinkleman on Thursday 25 September 14 11:13 BST (UK)
 ;D Hi I have a copy of her death cert ,the no on it is 128/1931 ,9 Feb 1931, she was 75 and in nz 55 yrs so I think you have the right Minnie ,she is buried in Christchurch NZ in Sydenham Cemetery ,Block 8D,Plot no 58 .yes she must have been about 20 when she came here in maybe 1876 I am yet to find that.  :)dinkleman
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dragonluva on Tuesday 07 March 23 20:31 GMT (UK)
Hi, I think I might be researching the same Phillips family as you. I have only just started looking at this branch so don't have any certificates yet but at the moment I have - James Phillips married Sarah Ann Horne Hobart Tasmania 25 Feb 1874. I think he could be the son of John and Bridget Grady/Grailey/Graley. James and Sarah Ann lived in Wanganui and had their first child in Wanganui in 1875.
There is a Bridget Phillips died 1888 aged 65 in Wanganui and from articles on Papers Past I think this is 'our' Bridget. I have not found where she is buried yet.
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dinkleman on Thursday 09 March 23 03:40 GMT (UK)
Hi ,great to hear from you ,I never considered the idea that Bridget May have come to New Zealand .I just thought it was Minnie . I have quite a bit on Bridget and John I can scan it and send it to you if you want .I have also owned them on the Clam a Convict site . I would love to see what info you have .Its taken quite a while to find the info I have .Look forward to hearing from you ,Dinkleman
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dragonluva on Friday 10 March 23 01:04 GMT (UK)
Hi, great to make contact. I would rather correspond via private email. Does that suit you and do you know what the policy is around giving out my email address? I guess I could private message you through here with my address.
Title: Re: marriage info for GG Grandparents
Post by: Dinkleman on Friday 10 March 23 01:15 GMT (UK)
Hi yes email is fine with me I will send you my address via pm