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Title: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: bendywendy on Monday 15 September 14 02:25 BST (UK)
Can anyone help with information as to where any of these were sited, I don't know the area at all and cannot find any other info about them, is it possible they were large private homes given for the use of injured and convalescent soldiers:

List of auxiliary hospitals in the UK during the First World War
redcross.org.uk/WW1  Anglesey

Beach Auxiliary Hospital, Holyhead
Holborn Auxiliary Hospital, Holyhead
Bodlondeb Auxiliary Hospital, Menai Bridge Road, Bangor
Darien Auxiliary Hospital, Trearddur Bay, near Holyhead
Hill Auxiliary Hospital, Holyhead
Isallt Faur Auxiliary Hospital, Trearddur Bay, near Holyhead
Bungalow Auxiliary Hospital, Trearddur Bay, near Holyhead

bendywendy
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: nestagj on Monday 15 September 14 15:52 BST (UK)
http://www.bangorcivicsociety.org.uk/pages/listedindex/1%20%2862%29.htm

Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: bendywendy on Monday 15 September 14 19:07 BST (UK)
thanks nestagj, there just dosen't seem to be information of where they were actually sited  ::)
b.
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 15 September 14 20:27 BST (UK)
www.old-maps.co.uk/en/home

enter coordinates   224470   379935
when all maps loaded, you'll see "Isallt Fawr" on modern map in main window.
click on 1924 map and when loaded, click on main window to zoom (anywhere except red box marked "Enhance zoom".
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 15 September 14 20:32 BST (UK)
Try coordinates   225879    378883

"The Bungalow" is marked - possibility?


Having trouble spotting The Darien!!
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 15 September 14 21:12 BST (UK)
On the Enumerator's list (1911 Census) the sequence of entries is -

"Carreg Fawr, The Cottage, Porth y Post, Bay View,Gwynfa, Ty y Cae, Darien Hotel, Bron Isallt, Isallt Bach, Trearddur Bay Hotel, "

Coordinates  224630   379511 
On the 1924 map I can make out a number of those listed - except the Darien Hotel!!

 
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: bendywendy on Monday 15 September 14 21:14 BST (UK)
Thank you I will have a look at this later.
Q... is any of these any where near to Oonavara @ Rhosneiger overlooking the beach ??

b.
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 15 September 14 21:17 BST (UK)
Have you checked Welsh Newspapers on line?

The items don't identify location but there are items about the Darien Hotel in its role as a Red Cross Hospital.
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 15 September 14 21:22 BST (UK)
There's a Rhosneigr on Anglesey, to the South of Holy Island
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: nestagj on Tuesday 16 September 14 10:34 BST (UK)
Here's the google maps link to Bodlondeb. The streetview image just shows the chimneys of the big house.  If you stand on the bridge you can see the old house - I think its been converted into apartments now.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?biw=1280&bih=631&q=ll57+2hx&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.75097201,d.bGQ,pv.xjs.s.en.osGhOFssrxk.O&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=TgMYVJWMCoGv7AacoYDoBw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?biw=1280&bih=631&q=ll57+2hx&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.75097201,d.bGQ,pv.xjs.s.en.osGhOFssrxk.O&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=TgMYVJWMCoGv7AacoYDoBw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ)
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: nestagj on Tuesday 16 September 14 10:44 BST (UK)
This seems a good fit for Isallt Fawr

http://homes.findthebest.co.uk/l/10939168/Isallt-Fawr-Lon-Isallt-Holyhead-Isle-of-Anglesey-LL65-2UU (http://homes.findthebest.co.uk/l/10939168/Isallt-Fawr-Lon-Isallt-Holyhead-Isle-of-Anglesey-LL65-2UU)

Have you seen this article

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nostalgia/world-war-i-island-life-6696771

Reading this I would assume that The Assembly Rooms (Holborn Road) became Holborn Auxiliary Hospital and the Sailors’ Home (Newry Beach) became Beach Auxiliary Hospital

BY process of elimination I would then suspect that Hill Auxiliary Hospital, Holyhead was Llys y Gwynt (Llanfawr Close) Try these co-ordinates into Google Maps.  There appears to be an old house here amongst the bungalows.   I think its some kind of Local Authority property now by the look of it.
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: bendywendy on Tuesday 16 September 14 11:31 BST (UK)
Many thanks everyone for the info, I have had a look around everything.
Some time ago I did post on this board this thread: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=527508.0

I have reasons to believe my husband's grandmother, who was residing in Rhosneigr and married a Rowland Williams from Llanfaelog, lived at Oonavara and was working at Maelog Lake Hotel, but we have a photograph of her in what appears to be Nun's headwear, she told family she worked as a "nurse" to the wounded and convalecening soldiers, after a lot of searching for answers about the latter I think it may be Lady Thomas Convalescent Home, which on the other thread someone believes this place could have been Cliff Hotel, Anglesey Archives thought this place was known as the Beach Hospital ???

Looking at the maps this is some distance from Rhosneigr so she either travelled or moved, but she was still living at Oonavara Nov 1917, the only other thought is she worked part time as a volunteer and still worked at Maelog Lake Hotel.

This is the link to the photograph for her sporting what looks like a Nun's headwear:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=508278.msg3647866#msg3647866
can anyone identify this headwear at the time on Anglesey of WW1 ???

bendywendy
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: nestagj on Tuesday 16 September 14 12:28 BST (UK)
Looking at the Daily Post article

as did the Lady Thomas  Convalescent Home which was opened in Holyhead a few months after the war (and later became the Gors Maternity Hospital)

Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: bendywendy on Tuesday 16 September 14 13:24 BST (UK)
Looks most likely she did either work or volunteer at Lady Thomas's... thanks everyone I know her dau will be happy that we have to some end sorted this mystery.

b.
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: bendywendy on Tuesday 16 September 14 19:27 BST (UK)
Q. What was transport services like during this time if she didn't drive and still lived at Rhosneigr, more so in the winter weather and how long would it have taken to travel from R to Lady Thomas ???

bendywendy

Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: Boncyfelin on Friday 19 September 14 11:39 BST (UK)
There was a station/stop at Rhosneigr which was on the main line to Holyhead. Would have been regular trains even during wartime, more regular than today I would think.
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: bendywendy on Friday 19 September 14 17:08 BST (UK)
thank you Boncyfelin.

I have been told on an Anglesey FB site that the Cliff Hotel was not Lady Thomas. I have emailed the National Archives Wales to ask if they will look through Lady Thomas's doc's for me to see if it gives an indication to where it was sited, also it didn't open until 1919.

bendywendy
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: Boncyfelin on Friday 19 September 14 18:10 BST (UK)
As nestagj has said, The Lady Thomas Convalescent Hospital was in Gors Avenue, Holyhead and later became the Gors Maternity Hospital. There was no connection with the Cliff Hotel, known in those days as the Darien Hotel, which was in Trearddur Bay.
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: wilcoxon on Monday 22 September 14 16:25 BST (UK)
http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/4245996/ART117/Lady%20Thomas%20Convalescent%20Home

There`s a photo of it here. Maybe it will help.
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: clwyd2 on Wednesday 12 November 14 00:19 GMT (UK)
There is a Plas Darien in trearddur bay which is holiday appartments ,it looks as if it was a large mansion house and could have been used as a hospital during WW1 as were many large mansion houses around the UK.
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: bendywendy on Wednesday 12 November 14 00:23 GMT (UK)
Many thanks wilcoxon, I have only just received notification of your reply, I will read this tomorrow.
Many thanks to clwyd2 also.

b.
Title: Re: WW1 Auxillary Hospitals in Anglesey
Post by: Viking666 on Friday 04 March 16 07:46 GMT (UK)
Topic: Lady Thomas Convalescent Home, Holyhead .
 Hi Wendy. I've posted some info on the above that you may find of some interest.
                                             Regards, Peter.