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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: kiwi on Sunday 14 September 14 04:31 BST (UK)
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Hi Everyone,
I am looking for Elizabeth Tucker living in London in 1871 I think. Elizabeth was from Wiltshire according to her death certificate here in NZ. Elizabeth married in London in the Parish Church of Camden Town to Henry Able Flatman. They emigrated to NZ in 1873.
The wedding cert shows a Hannah Tucker as one of the witnesses ( Mother or sister?) and we have a small bible sent here to her from her Uncle Charles Tucker in London dated 1885.
Elizabeth was born about 1855
I am sorry it is so little to go but at the moment that is all I have.
Regards,
Kiwi
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Just looking at the marriage cert for more clues
Marriage was 13 May 1873
Henry Flatman 22Bachelor , publican, of 14 Randolph Street, father George Flatman publican
Elizabeth Tucker 21 spinster of 14 Randolph Street, father Henry Tucker bricklayer
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A possible for 1871
Elizabeth Tucker age19 bn Westbury Wiltshire, servant in h/h of an Edward Pitman and family in Richmond Rd Paddington
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Looks like the witness may have been her mum, unless there is a sister not at home in 1861
1861
Westbury Wiltshire
Hannah Tucker 46 widow woolen spinner
John 22 son
William 19 son
Edward 15 son
Elizabeth 10 dtr. All bn Westbury
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I think I have followed the wrong Elizabeth Tucker, because 1851 reveals that the girl I have followed had a Dad called William, a cordwainer - not Henry a Bricklayer!
Here is the 1851, just so we can rule it out and not go over it again
Westbury
William 38 cordwainer
Hannah 36 woolen spinner
John 14
William 10
George 7
Edward 5
Elizabeth 8 mths. All b. westbury
There are certainly plenty of Tuckers in Wiltshire!
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Thanks for trying lizbd. It was very little to go on.
I have the Bible bit wrong. It was sent to her daughter here in 1885 NOT Elizabeth so Charles Tucker must have been her brother, still alive in London then. Family history has it that Charles was a missionary and went to India ( whether this was before 1885 or after I have no idea.)
Regards,
Kiwi
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This one looks possible
Father is Henry (though not a bricklayer) and siblings include a Charles, plus a Hannah there too, presumably related in some way!
Claypond, Albourn, Wiltshire
Henry 52 ag lab
Sarah 45
Charles 22
Martha 10
Elizabeth 8
William 7
Thomas 1
Hannah 4 boarder.
They are still there in 1871, he is still an ag lab. Older children all left home, Hannah still there, now described as granddaughter.
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Thanks lizdb, looks much more likely.
I take it that is the 1861 in Claypond, Wiltshire. If it is the right family then the Hannah Tucker witness at the wedding could have been the Grandaughter, she would have been about 17. (would that have been old enough to be a witness I wonder?)
The occupation of bricklayer only appears once in the records we have here and that was on the wedding cert.
Lots of food for thought
Kind Regards,
Kiwi
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Hi,
In 1871, Henry Flatman (shown on Ancestry as Harry) was a Potman at a Public House - The Jolly Gardeners, Coburg Street, London (Landlord was a Joseph Newport). Henry is shown as age 18 from Norfolk.
In 1861 aged 8, he seems to be with his uncle Henry Flatman - shown as Henery aged 40 - An Innkeeper at The Kings Head, Alburgh, Norfolk. Henry's mother Hannah is also there aged 71 and his sister Harriet age 35.
Alan
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Hi,
According to familysearch.org Elizabeth was one of nine children born to Henry Tucker and Sarah between 1839 and 1862 at Aldbourne, Wiltshire. Henry married there on 3 March 1837 to Sarah Hawkins.
Henry seems to have been christened 17 Mar 1811 the son of William Tucker and Mary. They appear to have had 7 children between 1798 and 1815 at Aldbourne. William and Mary Ball married at Aldbourne in 1797.
William's parents appear to be Richard Tucker and Sarah, with William being christened in either 1771 or 1775. Richard married Sarah Hobbs in 1769 and appear to have had 9 children between 1770 and 1787. Richard was christened 22 June 1740 (parents John Tucker and Ursula).
John and Ursula seem to have had 6 children between 1728 and 1745. John seem to have been christened 23 Jan 1703 the son of John Tucker and Mary
I think you will be able to take this further back if you so wish, but there is plenty here to whet your appetite and keep you busy!
Alan
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Hi Alan,
Thank you so much for the additional information on the Tucker family, as you say there is plenty to keep me busy!
Who would have thought Elizabeth was one of 9 children, there didn't seem to have been much communication after the pair of them left England, although some of the first names are repeated in their own children.
Henry Able Flatman on the other hand was most forthcoming, not much of it true though. Mind you in the 1800's who would have thought it was going to be so easy to check from the other side of the world. (smile) For all that he was well loved by his children as was Elizabeth.
Kind Regards,
kiwi