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Title: Census help 1841 & 1851 DUMBRELL
Post by: snowflake on Thursday 30 June 05 06:19 BST (UK)
Could I please ask for a look up on the 1841 & 1851 census for..

William DUMBRELL b. 1802. Horsted Keynes.
He is on the 1861 census as DAMBRELL
Charity b. 1797 Lindfield.

And any family they have still living with them.

Maybe William’s parents may still be alive in 1841
Richard & Sarah DUMBRELL. 

Thank you for taking the time to look this up.

Snowflake.   :)
Title: Re: Census help 1841 & 1851 DUMBRELL
Post by: sillgen on Thursday 30 June 05 16:10 BST (UK)
There others researching Dumbrell on this board.  try doing a search in the box at the top.    I will check the 1851 census later for you.   Where are they in 61?
Andrea
Title: Re: Census help 1841 & 1851 DUMBRELL
Post by: sillgen on Thursday 30 June 05 17:00 BST (UK)
1851 P 1642 Folio 21&22 Horsted Green, Horsted Keynes
William Dumbrill 49  bricklayer b Wivelsfield
Charity 53 b Lindfield
William 15 bricklaer's lab b Horsted Keynes
John 13 Scholar                         "

No sign of Richard and Sarah in 51.   I am sure it will be worth checking the original of this one as William's birth place is not the same as in 1861.   Wivelsfield is not that close.   There are some Dumbrell/Dumbrills there in 1851 too and a lot in Lewes.
Andrea
Title: Re: Census help 1841 & 1851 DUMBRELL
Post by: kizmiaz on Thursday 30 June 05 19:25 BST (UK)
Hi Snowflake

On the 1871 census for Preston (see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,59592.0.html), there is a probable ancestor of mine called Charlotte Fuller, who is listed as living with her brother, Richard Dumbrill, and both were born in West Hoathly (although it actually says West Horsley), Charlotte in 1836 and Richard in 1838.

Do you know if there is any connection between these two and the people you are looking for? It would be nice if I could verify that Charlotte, who would be my 3 greats grandmother, was actually Richards sister and thus a Dumbrill. The coincidence of the name Richard Dumbrill, despite the spelling, and the closeness of locality would seem to indicate some connection.

Thanks

Glen
Title: Re: Census help 1841 & 1851 DUMBRELL
Post by: sillgen on Thursday 30 June 05 20:29 BST (UK)
1851  Piece 1641 Folio 469   for Great House West Hoathly has a Richard Dumbrell age 13 servant,  farm lab, birth place not given.    Head of household Hobbs.   West Hoathly and Horsted Keynes are quite close.

No sign of any others.
Andrea
Title: Re: Census help 1841 & 1851 DUMBRELL
Post by: muvva on Friday 01 July 05 00:11 BST (UK)
Hi Snowflake,

1841 census, Horsted Keynes,  HO107/1114, Enumeration District 2

Folio 25, page 16
William Dumbrill, 35, ag lab
Charity, 40
Richard, 10
William, 5
John, 3

Folio 20, page 6
John Dumbrill, 30, ag lab
Martha, 30
Emalia, 2

No sign of Richard and Sarah..

hope that helps
Chris :)
Title: Re: Census help 1841 & 1851 DUMBRELL
Post by: snowflake on Friday 01 July 05 03:58 BST (UK)
Thank you Andrea, Glen and Chris.
This is a great help.

Glen, I can't see any connection with a Charlotte Fuller and a Richard Dumbrill on any of my family so far.

Also checked the other Dumbrells being researched but they are not mine.

Thank you all again    :D
Title: Re: Census help 1841 & 1851 DUMBRELL
Post by: dianne1408 on Saturday 10 November 07 10:11 GMT (UK)
I have only just started researching, but I have found a link with you. My great-great-grandfather was Thomas Dumbrell, born in Horsted Keynes abt 1813. (Dembvell is the mistranscribed census name used, although I have posted a correction to Dumbrell) In 1841 and 51 he is living in Scaynes Hill near Lindfield. He was a blacksmith.
His son. Philip, became a carpenter and moved to Brighton where his son, James, my great-grandfather was born in 1863. James emigrated to Australia in the early 1880s, and married widow Mercy Ransley (previously from Brighton, nee Chatfield). She was 20 years older than he, and they had two daughters, Jessie Rose (died aged 1), and my grandmother, Louisa Matilda.
I am looking for relatives of the Dumbrell family of Lindfield.
Best wishes,
Dianne.
Title: Re: Census help 1841 & 1851 DUMBRELL
Post by: dianne1408 on Saturday 10 November 07 10:24 GMT (UK)
Dumbull and Dumbret are mistranscriptions for Dumbrell/Dumbrill. Try these.
Dianne.
Title: Re: Census help 1841 & 1851 DUMBRELL
Post by: snowflake on Thursday 15 November 07 22:40 GMT (UK)
Hello Dianne,  I have just found you post and can tell you that my line of the Dumbrells is from John Dumbrell b 1805, he is a brother to your Thomas. John married Martha Osbourne 1831. John is my Gr Gr Grandfather, his son William immigrated to Australia with wife Caroline (Langridge) and 2 children, Ada and Kate, they had Emily & John who both died as babies. It looks like they had a son Edward in England before they immigrated but he must have died. They had Wilfred, Jessie, Arthur & Gladys in Rockhampton Qld, Gladys is my Grandmother.

If you want to contact me, my email is   e-mail removed to prevent spamming - Global Moderator
I live in Townsville Qld.
Snowflake
Title: Re: Census help 1841 & 1851 DUMBRELL
Post by: dianne1408 on Friday 16 November 07 16:38 GMT (UK)
Dumbull and Dumbret are mistranscriptions for Dumbrell/Dumbrill. Try these.
Dianne.
Many thanks. I cannot believe how many ways people decide to spell Dumbrell!!!