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I am trying to find out what became of John Henry Long Fuller
From my research on Ancestry.com.au I have found John Henry Long Fuller (JHLF) Baptized in the Manchester Chapel of Christ Lancashire 15 June 1837. Also Hannah Elizabeth Fuller was baptised on the same day. They are the children of John Henry Fuller (born 19/7/1807 Wells Somerset) and Elizabeth Ryan (born approx. 1827 Liverpool Lancashire).
Elizabeth and Hannah seem to have disappeared, I have assumed they died, although I haven't found a record of their deaths.
John Henry Fuller remarried Elizabeth Shuttleworth Bell 5 March 1853 at Aston, St Peter & St Paul Warwickshire. They moved to Australia with their children in 1869 however JHLF was not on the passenger list.
My last record of JHLF was in the 1861 census age 24. He was living with John Henry and Elizabeth and their children at Broughton, Borough of Talford and was a commercial traveller (tea).
I am tracing the family of my Mum's father, Victor de Vaux Dorset Fuller
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Hi
and Elizabeth Ryan (born approx. 1827 Liverpool Lancashire).
Do you mean 1807 or 1817? She could not have been b 1827 if JHL was b 1837
1841 for Eccles - all b Lancs except John Henry snr and Bonville. Suspect Elizabeth was previously married
John Henry Fuller 30 not b Lancs
Elizabeth 50 (as per image)
Bonville 15 not b Lancs - see https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NV26-QJC
Hannah Elizabeth 6
John Henry 4
HO107 Piece 542/5 Folio 12 Page 16
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Hannah Elizabeth Fuller married Thomas Grey 18.3.1857 at Wakefield All Saints Yorkshire
Fathers were John Henry Fuller occ commercial?? & Joseph Grey occ builder
Witnesses were John Henry Fuller and a name I cannot decipher
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Oops. Trying to do things in a hurry. Those are the details for John's second wife. I actually don't know anything about Elizabeth Ryan, other than marrying John.
Thanks for the other information. Good to know Hannah was still around. James Cannings Fuller is John Henry's brother. He moved to New York.
The reference to Elizabeth 50 (as per image) - I'm not sure where to find the image.
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John Henry Fuller married Elizabeth Ryan on 27th December 1834 at Manchester Carthedral
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The image that Carole means is the 1841 census
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Suspect Elizabeth was previously married
Yes she was a widow when she married John Henry Fuller.
John's occupation was salesman and they married by licence.
Witnesses were J Smith and Thomas Parry
Think Thomas Parry was a church official he shows up on the rest of the page but I can't see another J Smith. Could be he has some connection with the family.
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Fabulous. Thanks.
I still can't see the 1841 census record. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. I can see the image for the birth of Bonville Fuller. I do have access to the 1841 census on Ancestry.com.au however I'm drawing a blank when I search for Fullers.
So if John Henry Long Fuller was a travelling salesman, he could have ended up anywhere I suppose.
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I'm wondering if this is the first Elizabeth in 1851 - the ""Royans" (as per Ancestry) are actually Ryans. Living in Scott St
Henry Royan 29 - packer, b Salford
Ann Royan 28 - b Ireland
George Royan 2 - b Manchester
Eliza Royan 1/12 b Manchester
Eliza Fuller 55 - mother, b Manchester. Married. Traveller's wife
Re: HO107, 2228, 87, 43.
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Hi
If you are using Ancestry - use the 1841 reference to find the entry
Here's the link to the 1841 search page http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=8978
Reference (ignore the book number 5 when inputting)
HO107 Piece 542 book 5 Folio 12 Page 16
If you still can't find it - search using the following - Bourille Fuller b 1826 (he's mis-transcribed)
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I'm wondering if this is the first Elizabeth in 1851 - the ""Royans" (as per Ancestry) are actually Ryans. Living in Scott St
Henry Royan 29 - packer, b Salford
Ann Royan 28 - b Ireland
George Royan 2 - b Manchester
Eliza Royan 1/12 b Manchester
Eliza Fuller 55 - mother, b Manchester. Married. Traveller's wife
Re: HO107, 2228, 87, 43.
Could very well be
43 year old John is in Birmingham a visitor in the household of a Charlotte Meakin 51 year old School Mistress.
HO107; Piece: 2059; Folio: 274; Page: 39
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There is a possible burial record for Eliza Fuller
Burial: 24 Feb 1853 Christ Church Salford Lancashire England
Eliza Fuller -
Age: 61 years
Abode: Newton Heath
Buried by John Richardson Offg Minister
Register Burials 1831 - 1897, Page 170 Entry 1359
Source LDS Film 1786367
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
If this is the correct record then John wasted very little time remarrying :)
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I've searched high and low for John Henry Long Fuller b 1837 and I can't find any trace of him in any census after 1861. ???
I'm wondering.....Could he have travelled to Australia at a later date than the rest of the family?
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Hmmm...JHF and ESB did have their first baby 3 weeks after they were married. I guess stranger things have happened?? ;)
I will investigate if JHLF came to Australia, or maybe he went to Uncle James in New York.
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I have found a John Fuller on the Passenger list of the ship St. Paul which departed Southampton 24/7/1897 bound for New York. JHLF would have been 60 at this time. At this stage I'm going to claim him as John Henry Long Fuller, presumably going to see his Uncle James Cannings Fuller.
After some research on James Cannings, turns out he was a Quaker and helped slaves to escape.
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I descend from James Cannings Fuller, would love to know if anyone is still researching this line! Thanks.
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Hi. I'm afraid I haven't been very busy in this area over the last couple years. I did get together a bit of information about Hannah.