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Title: mack family from down ireland
Post by: enileuqcaj on Monday 01 September 14 10:26 BST (UK)
hi looking for info on my 3x grandparents david mack and margaret armstrong who were farmers from co down ireland any info would be grateful  regards jacqueline
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 01 September 14 10:29 BST (UK)
Any dates? any more details? ('Co. Down' is a fairly large area) The more information you can give us to start with the easier, and quicker, it is for us to help you.
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: iluleah on Monday 01 September 14 10:50 BST (UK)
When was David born approx? There are 3 David Macks in Co Down in 1901 census and many Margaret Armstrongs  in 1901 and 1911 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie

Ros's site may also be helpful to you http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 01 September 14 11:19 BST (UK)
There's an extracted birth for a child of a David Mack & Margaret Armstrong but the OP needs to provide additional details.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRHG-5DZ
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Monday 08 September 14 09:26 BST (UK)
Aghadowey beat me to it, the familysearch.org lead, led me to noting

Ros Davies Co Down has a few entries for Mack’s of Annahilt

On the other hand the main David Mack who had land to farm in 1860’s was a David Mack living in Ballymacarn North in the civil parish of Magheradrool which adjoins Annahilt civil parish. Also in the civil parish is Ballynahinch itself.  Perhaps Margaret went to a church in Annahilt

Ros Davies website has details of church records and more see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies

https://www.emeraldancestors.com has
2 marriages
1887   David MACK m Priscilla MACK Downpatrick   Down   
1898   Thomas XXXXXX m Priscilla MACK Belfast   Antrim
So do supply more detail soon
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: enileuqcaj on Monday 08 September 14 20:38 BST (UK)
hi everyone my david  mack and margaret armstrong lived in ballykine / co down on a farm and had john mack my  gg grandfather in 1847 .we can find no birth certificate for him  they also had robert in 1881. they both came to ayr and married sisters . any info on them in ireland would be great  regards jacqueline
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Monday 08 September 14 20:52 BST (UK)
That date and That Ballycline does help focus
Ros Davies only suggests to me 
Ballykim Lower Ballykine Lower   Magheradrool & Dromara
Ballykim Upper Ballykine Upper   Magheradrool & Magherahamlet or Dromara
3km W of Ballynahinch; click here to see its location on a townland map

and some distance away
Ballykinler House   Ballykinler farm, E of Inner Dundrum Bay, 3km SE of Clough
Ballykinler Upper , Lower & Middle
Ballykinlar   Ballykinler  Stoppingmy contributions now as must do other jobs
Good luck JimG
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: kingskerswell on Monday 08 September 14 21:04 BST (UK)
Hi,
   In 1847 there will be no birth certificates as civil registration of births did not begin until 1864. I also think that 1847 and 1881 is an excessively long time between siblings... or have I misunderstood?

Regards
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 08 September 14 21:08 BST (UK)
Hi,
   In 1847 there will be no birth certificates as civil registration of births did not begin until 1864. I also think that 1847 and 1881 is an excessively long time between siblings... or have I misunderstood?

Regards

Just about to say that  :-\

Added- the only extracted Irish birth for David Mack & Margaret Armstrong is the one I posted earlier.
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: scotmum on Monday 08 September 14 22:12 BST (UK)
Records at PRONI might yield some clues:

Quote
Correspondence of the Mack family of Ballykine, Co. Down, including letters from Glasgow and Pennsylvania, 1854-1896.

The reference for above is D2244.

PRONI also have the will of Andrew Mack, Ballykine, who died in 1894.
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 09 September 14 09:22 BST (UK)
Scotmum set me off
The Macks in Ballykine are traceable through Andrew Mack of Ballykine Lower Magheradrool Down in 1863, who has two separated areas of land that included House Offices and land , the first is map reference 10, with 11 acres 30 perches the second area at map reference 11, of 17 acres and 20 perches, The two areas are separated  other map areas Nos 12 and 13.

In Map reference 10 Andrew had a substantial house and buildings  which had a rateable annual valuation of £2 ten shillings. Others in the townland were as low as just 5 shillings.  The website www.askaboutireland.com in its Griffiths valuation section has the ,means to look up map references 10 and 11 in Ballykine Lower 

Topographically Ballykine Lower  is an interesting townland  its tenants are all divided by land divisions which are all set running roughly NE

The map ref 10 shows his property is divided by a road running NNE through it which ends up southwards at the junction of Tweedys lane ends and on the south west side another road with a bridge caseys bridge on it . One building is set in the west of the dividing Road, 3 buildings are set in east side in a cluster there appears to be tree planted in parrellel lines.  On a modern google map the place to look is at 3 Ballycreen Rd Ballynahinch, Down BT24 8TZ and above. The other road that includes Caseys bridge appears to be the `Lisburn Road

On map ref 11 he is the landlord and has 4 tenants, Andrew Ferguson has the biggest garden the others small, John Ferguson, William Douglas and Eliza Anne Massy , They share whats looks like a row of cottages and a seperate blg. The land runs SE from Tweedys lane ends and the top of Riverside road to the sw where its border is the Ballynahinch River.and looks on a modern map to be mostly redeveloped. So thats where he lived, how to link up his family history is the real  challenge
Good luck JImG
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: scotmum on Tuesday 09 September 14 09:25 BST (UK)
Scotmum set me off

 ;D
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: enileuqcaj on Thursday 25 September 14 19:09 BST (UK)
hi looking for info on david mack and margaret armstrong from co down their children were dorothea rosanna robert brown mary martin david priscilla my gg granpa john who was born in 1847 is not listed and i am trying to find out why ? a family bible said they may have stayed at slate quarry farm ballymacarin north ballynahinch . regards jac
Title: Re: mack family from down ireland
Post by: iluleah on Thursday 25 September 14 21:18 BST (UK)
"Slate quarry now opened in the said John McKinney's land in Crossgar and all other slate ... Located in the Townland of North Ballymacarn, Barony of Kinleany, County Down" http://countydown.x10.mx/html/dromara.htm