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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: alexis devereux on Wednesday 29 June 05 16:34 BST (UK)
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Looking for any Devereux in Pontypridd.
My grandmother Ann(Annie, Anna, Anne) was born there in 1903.
I have been told there was a big family of them in the area - The Gride (?) or Tower Street. Any information would be gratefully received.
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any other siblings or parents names ?
rgds joanne
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Hi again
MR & MRS Devereux & family of 9living at "CREGA" in Neath
could they be yours ?
rgds joanne
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Thank you Joanne.
I don't know. All members of the direct line to me are dead. Anne had a brother Frank who died with no issue. Anne is dead and there is no record of anyone else.
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Hi Alexis,
Welcome to RootsChat !!
there is a Graig in Ponty(pridd), "up the Graig, in Ponty" pronounced Grige (both G's are hard)
maybe that's the 'Gride'.
Just had a quick look in the 1901 census, there were an awful lot of Devereux in Glamorgan, mostly coal miners, mostly born in various areas near Pontypridd and in the Rhondda.
Mainly Ystradyfodwg and Neath,which is down near Swansea, so unlikely to be your family, although they were probably all related.
Ystradyfodwg is more likely, as it was later annexed to Llantrisant, and the Graig is a "short cut" over the mountain, between Pontypridd and Llantrisant. A big area around Pontypridd is still called Pontypridd, although they are different parishes.
So if they lived near the boundary between Ystradyfodwg and Pontypridd, they could have said they lived in Ponty.
Hope this helps a bit, but probably the biggest help would be if you knew, or could find, a few more names of the families.
Good luck,
Bob
(ex resident of - but not an expert on - Pontypridd and the Rhondda )
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ps.
Just looked on GENUKI,
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Ystradyfodwg/
there is a link to a map of Glamorgan there,
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/GLAImgMap.html
and Neath isn't so-o-o far away, if you go up the Rhondda and then over the divide, down to Swansea and Neath, so it is more than likely that the Devereux families are all related somehow.
The GENUKI page brings back memories, we lived in Maerdy for a while, and I went to school in Ferndale, before we moved down the valley, to Cilfynydd in Pontypridd
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Thank you Berlin-Bob.
I didn't expect to get replies so quickly !
I believe we had relations in Swansea, but alas no more than that, it seems that path over the hills was well worn.
A trip to the old home ( Treforrest) seems very likely and a walk up over the hills at the back of the old tech ( I used to collect bluebells for my nan there - she always smiled but apparently hated the things).
Many thanks for your time and interest
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Hi Alexis,
your welcome. You're not the first to ask about relations from Pontypridd, but your posting must of hit the memory chord or something !!
the old tech. in Treforest ?? Used to be the School of Mines, then became Glamorgan College of Technology, (where I studied Maths) and then became Glamorgan Polytechnic, and is I believe, now the Uni. of Glamorgan !
My brother lives in Llantrisant, and when I visit him I hardly recognise "my" Taff Valley, from over 35 years ago !
Good luck with your search,
Bob
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My Mum lived on the Graig as a child and the family (Hampton) was pretty close to a Devereux family. It was pronounced 'Devrix', I think.
I'll ask her about it.
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PS>
I've just look on freebmd for Devereux in Pontypridd and there are quite a few!
You can search here:
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
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I asked my Mum.
She knew of only two people with the surname Devereux on the Graig; Maura and her Mum. She said that they emigrated to America. The mother would have been Mrs Devereux, anyway, and the daughter would have changed her name on marriage. She said that the father had died so she didn't really know him.
Maybe there were others she didn't know. There did tend to be extended families living close to each other.
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tricia
Do you know if any ancestors came originally from Ireland?Are you connected to the Matthew Devereux who emigrated to Australia in1852/
Erin
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hello Erin.
Yes the family came from Tipperary.
Anne was the daughter of John Devereux and Elizabeth Evans (nee Rees) - unable to trace her as there are so many with the same name and can't find the marriage details (yet!). John was the son of John Devereux and Hannah Reardon (There may also have been a daughter Susan?) Papa John died ( I think) when he was 21 and Hannah married Evan Morgan. As far as I can trace and I am still very foggy on this Papa John was the son of Francis Devereux and grandson of Ellen Devereux from Tipperary. Ellen had more sons but it is difficult to locate them as the name varies so much on the census returns.
Let me know if this ties in with anything you have.
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Alexis
Interesting I shall let you know if my Devereux throws up any connections. I am in the eary stages with this one.
Erin
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Hi
found the following buried Glyntaff cemetery Pontypridd
Devereaux John buried 1915
Stephen .. 1901
David .. 1908, Elizabeth 1942, William .. 1911 -same grave
John.. 1939
Patrick.. 1938
Deverieux Nicholas .. 1900- Patrick and Nicholas in same grave even though surname spell slightly different.
Don't know if this is of any use.
cheers cardiff
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Cardiff
Thanks for tht Cardiff
Erin
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Thats Ok just hope it helps
cheers cardiff
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hi im looking for a branch of devereuxs too. all i know is that i have a martha devereux (b 1896 in haverfordwest) who married a walter baldwin young (he was from warwickshire). but i cant trace her family back any further. if you have any info on any devereuxs that you think might tie in could u please let me know thanks
jodie
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Hi Andrea,
I've recently learned that my great great grandfather was Thomas Devereux. Originally he came from Keeston in Pembrokeshire. I have quite interesting information on him. He was married to Martha Devereux who died in a cholera outbreak.....but there are / were an awful lot of Martha Devereux's