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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: skylark on Saturday 23 August 14 10:32 BST (UK)
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I have - George Field married to Louisa Fisher - 25 December 1878 in the parish church of St. George Hanover Square. George's father is John Field, coachman. Louisa's father is John Fisher, porter. Witnesses William Miles and Matilda Fisher.
1891 - George Field H 38 labourer and coach horse groom b.St.George London
Louisa Field W 32 b.St.Pancras
Frederick Son 11 b. Marylebone
George son 8 b. St.Pancras
Charles son 4 b. St. Pancras
Henry son 4m. b. Marylebone
1901 - George Field H 40 labourer paper hanger b.Ireland
Louisa Field W 50 b. St Pancras
+ all od their children with the addition of Herbert 6 b. St. Pancras
1911 - George Field H 59 Washer motor car b. London W
Louisa Field W 49 b. London W
+ all of the children - George now 30 born in St.Pancras workhouse. (which I have found)
1881 - there is a Louisa Field (married 26 b.Kensington) (maybe giving birth to Frederick) I have found in hospital but this is all I can find of both George and Louisa!!! Any bright ideas please???
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Hi
Do you mean you're struggling only with 1881 or can you not find them before that either?
Their ages are inconsistent over the years. What ages were given for them at the time of marriage?
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The ages on their marriage was 'full age'. I can't find anything on the 1881 or find any obvious, or even suitable, family before that for either of them. And neither can I find any Matilda Fisher (witness at their marriage) who you would think was a sister or close relative. I am absolutely and totally stuck.
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Yes, full age is not very helpful!
I see that they did give separate addresses. 3 Queen St for him and Red Hill Street for her.
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Yes, Findmypast used to do an address search, which would have been useful. I have tried to locate both those streets to find their districts but to no avail.
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Hello,
1881 180/25/43
Red Hill Street
Frederick Fisher 62 yrs. messenger general b Marylebone
Anne Fisher 53 yrs b Marylebone
address and the name Frederick connection :-\ ???
Heywood
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Finding son Frederick's birth would obviously help re 1881. His age varies too.
Is son George the George Field born 22 Oct 1882 baptised 3 Nov 1882 St Pancras, son of George & Louisa, abode Workhouse?
Interesting find by Heywood :)
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Redhill Street is London NW1 Behind Regents Park off Albany Street
Queen Street is EC4, off Queen Victoria Street
Hope this helps
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1871 shows Frederick & Annie Fisher at 54a Redhill St. One of their daughters is Louisa, 14 b St Pancras.
RG10/203/25/42.
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1871 94/48/1
3 Queen Street St George, Hanover Square
George Field 20 yrs an Errand Boy
With parents George, a coachman and Mary Ann
Heywood :)
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In 1861 Frederick and Ann Fisher are at 3 Munster St Marylebone. They have a 7 yr old daughter Matilda. Their 5 yr old Lavenia may be the same person as Louisa in 1871.
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Hello Avm228 - Yes, I believe that is the Birth of George.
Hello Heywood - Thank you for finding that. It would work if I could prove Frederick Fisher 62 was brother or related to John (father of Louisa). Your latest post Could!!! mean that George & Louisa were making up fathers names on their marriage certificate! And your last post could easily suggest they were playing games. I had looked at this family before receiving the marriage cert., not realising the significance.
Your posts are coming so fast I can't keep up. This is all great - but it may mean that the marriage cert is a lie.
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It looks as though they are both found :)
It must have been 'think of a name for our fathers - go on then let's say John' ::)
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Well!! That is the very first time I have found a marriage cert. wrong. It makes you wonder why, especially if their fathers are still alive. I have a bit of work to do now so I hope it all fits together. Thank you all very much.
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Frederick & Ann Fisher had Matilda & Louisa baptised together at Christ Church, St Pancras on 22 Dec 1858. Birthdates not stated, unfortunately.
Frederick was a cab driver. Abode 46 Cumberland Market.
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Free BMD has possibilities
Matilda 1853 and Louisa 1855 - Pancras district
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Frederick & Anne Fisher are at 54A Red Hill Street in 1881 too. RG11/180 f25 p43
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And George & Mary A Field are still at 3 Queen Street in 1881: RG11/92 page 14
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You have all been brilliant! Thank you very much.