RootsChat.Com

Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: waynos2009 on Saturday 23 August 14 07:24 BST (UK)

Title: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: waynos2009 on Saturday 23 August 14 07:24 BST (UK)
If anyone has any information about John Joseph George married to Grace Page from Tasmania, I would be very appreciative.
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: horse000 on Saturday 23 August 14 07:38 BST (UK)
Hi

Marriage.
John Joseph Goerge and Grace Page, Tasmania1909. Page no. 1282

Electoral Roll, 1937.
John Joseph George. Denison, Tasmania.
With Grace. Add: 35 Kelly St. John is a Boot repairer

Hope this helps for starters.

Geoff
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: horse000 on Saturday 23 August 14 07:56 BST (UK)
Not the best news to hear  >:(

In the local press 23 March 1943 [Hobart]

Grace George petitioned for divorce from
John Joseph George for desertion. A Mr Piggott (instructed by Johnson, Mitchell, and
Laughton) represented the wife, Mrs George. She said she married John Joseph in 1909, and things went well until 1939. She said her husband wént to
Launceston for health reasons, and
in the following month she read in
the Press that he had been charged
with bigamy.

Apparently he married a neighbour whilst still married to Grace. But that would need validating.

Geoff
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: cando on Saturday 23 August 14 08:02 BST (UK)
A gentle reminder that it breaches copyright to copy and paste from ancestry.com and other websites. It isn't the information that is copyright but the format of the transcript. The work must be your own.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=156350.msg726109#msg726109

From my resource
Marriage
GEORGE John Joseph
PAGE Grace
24 Jul 1909
At Hastings  Reg#1282

Do you need the registrations of four of their children - births are only available to 1920.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/019ko/
The Advocate 12 Jul 1939
BIGAMY CHARGE......
John Joseph George was charged that at Hobart on June 9, being a married person, he unlawfully went through the form of marriage with Mabel Marion Brooks, his wife, Grace George, to whom he was married on July 24 1939, then being alive.

Cando
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: horse000 on Saturday 23 August 14 08:05 BST (UK)
Ooops!

Many thanks for the reminder.

Geoff
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: cando on Saturday 23 August 14 08:09 BST (UK)
That's OK Geoff...just hit the modify button and 'fix' ;)

This news snip gives his age so born c1894.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/019kp/

The Mercury 14 Jul 1939

John Joseph George,45, a one legged man, who pleaded guilty to a charge of bigamy on June 9,  was committed to the Supreme Court for sentence by the Police Magistrate, Col J P Clark, in the Hobart Police Court yesterday.

I can't see a birth for a John GEORGE in Tasmania c1894.

Cando
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: cando on Saturday 23 August 14 08:14 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/019kr/
John released on a bond and his age is now 53 ::).

http://www.rootschat.com/links/019kq/
Decree nisi.  Grace GEORGE v John Joseph GEORGE for desertion.

Cando
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: cando on Saturday 23 August 14 08:15 BST (UK)
I can't see a birth for a John GEORGE born in Tas c1886.

Cando
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: horse000 on Saturday 23 August 14 08:31 BST (UK)
There are a few trees that point to 1886, but I can't see a birth either  :-\

Geoff
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: cando on Saturday 23 August 14 08:33 BST (UK)
Haven't looked at trees... :)

The Advocate 6 Dec 1944

Mabel Marion Brooks sought to have her marriage with John Joseph George annulled on the ground that the marriage was bigamous. Petitioner said that in June,1939, George went through a form of marriage with her and they had co-habited at Kingston. He told her later at the Royal Hobart Hospital that he had been charged with bigamy because he had been married and his real wife was still living. After George had given corroborative evidence, Sir John granted a decree.

Cando

Edit to correct mistranscription
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: horse000 on Saturday 23 August 14 08:35 BST (UK)
I didn't realise it was as early as 1930  :-\

Geoff
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: cando on Saturday 23 August 14 08:52 BST (UK)
Australian Electoral Roll
1949
GEORGE Doreen Lillian  154 Bathurst Street, Launceston Home duties
GEORGE John Joseph 154 Bathurst Street, Launceston  No occupation

According to his burial record at Carr Villa Memorial Park, Launceston he was born c1886

GEORGE John Joseph  63 years
Date of death unknown.  Interred 1 Nov 1949.
Area-Monumental cemetery  Location C4 #428  Site Free.

Perhaps some certs MAY help. The 1909 marriage cert should give you information about John's place of birth, his parents' names including his mother's maiden name and father's occupation.

Cando
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: horse000 on Saturday 23 August 14 08:54 BST (UK)
I did wonder if that was him in 1949, no occupation with his medical issues makes sense.

Geoff
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: cando on Saturday 23 August 14 09:03 BST (UK)
He was buried at Carr Villa Cemetery at Launceston on 1 Nov 1949. He was at that same address on the 1943 roll.  He was noted as an invalid pensioner in one of the news items.   Election day was 10 Dec 1949.

Cando
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: horse000 on Saturday 23 August 14 09:13 BST (UK)
Yeah, it's still not comfortable, with lack of DOB and parents it's still up in the air, as you say a cert. of some kind may clinch it  :-\

Geoff
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: waynos2009 on Saturday 23 August 14 11:33 BST (UK)
Hi Guys, Thanks everyone for the info, Having trouble finding his parents. Thank you.
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: waynos2009 on Saturday 23 August 14 11:42 BST (UK)
Thanks Cando. That would be great. (Do you need the registrations of four of their children - births are only available to 1920.)
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: waynos2009 on Saturday 23 August 14 12:00 BST (UK)
Hi, If there is anyone living in Launceston, would they be able to get a photo of the headstone for me? I am living at Ballarat. Very much appreciated. I will be happy to give my personal email address to the person that has a photo. Thanks.
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: Nameerf on Wednesday 14 October 15 05:18 BST (UK)
I understand that JJG was married three times:
1. Grace Page m.24 Jul 1909 - did he have any children to this marriage?
2. Mabel Marion Brooks m.24 Jul 1939 - I understand he had no children to this marriage
3. Doreen Lillian Davidson aka Doris and Dori m.4 Feb 1943 Launceston, TAS and had three children:
a. John George b.c. 1944 Launceston, TAS d.c. 1997 Launceston, TAS
b. GNG and KG (twins)
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: majm on Wednesday 14 October 15 05:26 BST (UK)
Hi there Nameerf,

Please remove the given names of those born in 1947.  You have not confirmed that they are no longer living, and err.... they are younger than errrrrrrrr..... me.

CLICK on the modify button inside your post and backspace over their names.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: Nameerf on Wednesday 14 October 15 07:22 BST (UK)
Thanks JM
Do you know any details of this family? e.g. parents of JJG?
Title: Re: parents of John Joseph George
Post by: majm on Wednesday 14 October 15 07:25 BST (UK)
No, sorry, but I am sure there will be other RChatters along with quality understanding of researching in Tasmania.  I tend to be very NSW centric.

Cheers,  JM