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Hello, Could anyone tell me where I can find information about the above lady who is my Great Great Grandmother, she was admitted to the Cheshire Parkside lunatic asylum and died there in 1893.I would like to know (if info does still exist) why she was taken there. by whom and how long she was there.. Her children were Thomas Emmanual Hopkinson and Elizabeth Mc Cormack (nee Hopkinson, her Son in law John is stated on Ann's death certificate. Ann is 'Widow' of James Bowker Hopkinson who went to New York on the ship China in 1873 and as far as we know did not return, if anyone knows what happened to him, did he die there if so of what? and what year or did he just disappear and make a new life for himself. I am really wanting to clear this unsolved mystery... which is quite sad. thanks
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Scroll down the page here to find baptism for Elizabeth.
Her father's occupation is listed as being a dentist.
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Salford-Central/ststephen/baptisms_1868-1870.html
Try Googling "Thomas Emmanuel Hopkinson" - several pieces of information come up.
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Googled "Ann Wright Hopkinson" - several pieces of information come up for her including following details of her marriage:-
Marriage: 10 Dec 1863 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancs.
James Bowker Hopkinson - of full age, Dentist, Bachelor, 34 Green Gate, Salford
Ann Wright Nicholls - of full age, Spinster, 2 Brindle Heath, Pendleton
Groom's Father: William Hopkinson, Dentist
Bride's Father: Cornelius Nicholls, Dyer
Witness: Thomas Nicholls; Elizabeth Louisa Nicholls
Married by License by: J. P. Pitcairn
Register: Marriages 1861 - 1864, Page 241, Entry 481
Source: Manchester Central Library
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This link may help re hospital records http://apps.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=1063
Kay
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Thankyou for info to you both re Ann. I am new to this so excuse me if i am getting it wrong. i have loads of info on Ann I just want to know about her being taken into the Asylum and by whom etc also was she living with Elizabeth prier to the Asylum. what really happened to James her husband when he went to America. thanks
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Hello Southafrica and welcome to Rootschat,
If you email Cheshire Records Office and give them as much info as possible about Ann they will tell you if they have the record of her time in Parkside/Macclesfield and how to go about ordering it.
You will find the contact details on their web site.
http://archives.cheshire.gov.uk/
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Do you have all the census records for her or would you like us to find them for you?
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Thankyou Rolnora for you kind help, I have a couple of census records for Ann 1871, 1881, i would have to check further back but would appreciate it if these could be found.. thanks so much. i will try the Cheshire Records office i have looked on their site...
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Hello southafrica,
So you will already know that in 1871 Ann was living with her parents and has both Thomas and Elizabeth with her.
RG10 Piece 4009 Folio: 108 Page 37
And in 1881
Ann and her father are living with her brother in law and his family and describing herself as a widow.Thomas is with her but not Elizabeth.
RG11 Piece 4029 Folio 75 Page 19
In 1891 we have Anne Hopkinson 45 widow housekeeper to John Mc Cormack 30 born Ireland and a Surgeons Assistant. Elizabeth Hopkinson 25 year old dressmaker and a boarder.
RG12 Piece 3357 Folio 58 Page 11
I have found a record which I think is a possibility, Ann W Hopkinson in Manchester Rates Books, Poor Rate Assessments it's dated 1892 but the only other info is her address.
It's on the Find my Past web site and if you haven't access you will need to buy a few credits to view the image.
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/
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Scroll down the page here to find baptism for Elizabeth.
Her father's occupation is listed as being a dentist.
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Salford-Central/ststephen/baptisms_1868-1870.html
Try Googling "Thomas Emmanuel Hopkinson" - several pieces of information come up.
Added:
Googled "Ann Wright Hopkinson" - several pieces of information come up for her including following details of her marriage:-
Marriage: 10 Dec 1863 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancs.
James Bowker Hopkinson - of full age, Dentist, Bachelor, 34 Green Gate, Salford
Ann Wright Nicholls - of full age, Spinster, 2 Brindle Heath, Pendleton
Groom's Father: William Hopkinson, Dentist
Bride's Father: Cornelius Nicholls, Dyer
Witness: Thomas Nicholls; Elizabeth Louisa Nicholls
Married by License by: J. P. Pitcairn
Register: Marriages 1861 - 1864, Page 241, Entry 481
Source: Manchester Central Library
I think James and Ann told a little lie there by saying they were of full age = 21
www.freebmd.org.uk
1843 dec qtr HOPKINSON James Bowker Salford 20 764 his birth
1863 dec qtr Hopkinson James Bowker to Nicholls Ann Wright Barton 8c 556 his marriage
so he was only just 20 - if indeed he had reached 20....he may of only been 19 if he was born after 10th dec
1845 mar qtr Nicholls Ann Wright 20 895 her birth
1863 dec qtr her marriage ................so she is only 18 ....
I wonder why they said they were full age ??
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You may be interested to know that the Parkside Asylum Patient Casenotes have been digitised by Cheshire Archives and Local Studies and are online. They are a fantastic resource for genealogists and family historians.
Search the catalogue for the name you are interested in although I have just looked and she is not listed. I am currently using these records for my MSc thesis in Genealogy so will keep my eyes peeled for her name.
http://archive.cheshire.gov.uk/calmview/
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I've just found her records, she is listed as Ann Wright the mother of Thomas E Hopkinson. She died on 18 March 1893 of General Paralysis. This is a term which means syphilis. I've attached the links to her casenotes. Unfortunately there is no photograph of her which there usually is for asylum patients.
http://archive.cheshire.gov.uk/calmview/GetImage.ashx?db=Catalog&type=default&fname=NHM8_5_8%5CNHM8_5_8_00738.jpg
http://archive.cheshire.gov.uk/calmview/GetImage.ashx?db=Catalog&type=default&fname=NHM8_5_8%5CNHM8_5_8_00739.jpg
http://archive.cheshire.gov.uk/calmview/GetImage.ashx?db=Catalog&type=default&fname=NHM8_5_8%5CNHM8_5_8_00740.jpg