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Title: whelan census help
Post by: Sandy O'Hara on Tuesday 19 August 14 18:34 BST (UK)
hi i have found my ancestors in sheffield 1911 census john whealan but cant find them on the 1901 census originally i thought they may have been in ireland but one of the children was born in birmingham in 1900 if any one can help would appreciate it
john whelan  born dublin ireland 1866
elizabeth whelan dublin ireland 1866
children were
cecilia dublin
thomas dublin
vincent wolverhampton 1899
julia dublin
kathleen 1893 preston lancashire
charles born chorley 1896
john dublin
patrick birmingham  1900
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 19 August 14 18:40 BST (UK)
Hi Sandy

Have you tried the Wheeling family in Birmingham?

Dad John is a bicycle fitter,born Dublin.
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 19 August 14 21:13 BST (UK)
Have you got the family's details from Irish Genealogy Church records sounds like same family John Whelan and Lizzie Moran married 1884 having children in Dublin up till 1894 and a son Robert born 1889.
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Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 19 August 14 23:05 BST (UK)
1901 at 6 St Mark Street Ladywood Birmingham.

John Wheeling    36 head bicycle fitter b Dublin
Elizabeth Wheeling 38 wife b "
Julia Wheeling    16 son brass polisher b "
Kathleen Wheeling    8 dau  b Lancs
Thomas Wheeling    7 son b Dublin
Charles Wheeling    5 son b Lancs
Patsy Wheeling    2 son b Bham
Vincent Wheeling 1 son b Bham
Lilley Knight    28 boarder  b London
Robert Knight    27 boarder b Bham
   
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: Jay_doe on Friday 06 November 15 20:07 GMT (UK)
Hi, my Great Grandparents were John Whelan and Eliza Whelan nee Moran with my Grandmother being Cecelia. I'm told her farther (John) was a bycycle manufacturer in Dublin but she was sent to England while young where she met my grand father and had their family in Sheffield.
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: taramcdsmall on Saturday 07 November 15 11:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Jay and Welcome

I shall post a few Whelan / Moran bits in case you don't have them.

Marriage

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/41bf920434091

Baptism John Jr

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/2fc73d0256200

Baptism Elizabeth Jr

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/bbc56f0081859

Baptism Thomas

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/b28b160263882

Baptism Cecelia

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/6d68ce0261079

Baptism Robert

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/f41e400121829

Baptism Julia

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/17d0c20255140

Tara
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: taramcdsmall on Saturday 07 November 15 11:36 GMT (UK)
Actual marriage of John and Elizabeth here with lots more info

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633500

Tara
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: taramcdsmall on Saturday 07 November 15 11:44 GMT (UK)
This appears to be Elizabeth's baptism.

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/8024830104518

Tara
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: taramcdsmall on Saturday 07 November 15 11:45 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth's brother Charles getting married

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/3da3cd0014038

Tara
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: taramcdsmall on Saturday 07 November 15 11:48 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth's brother Patrick baptism

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/15bc630234616

Tara
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: taramcdsmall on Saturday 07 November 15 11:57 GMT (UK)
Weird, the family appears to have gone from RC to COI.

All the names and address' appear to tie in so I'm sure they are the correct family.

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/7430280249641

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/f6dbcd0108372

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/84b1180212603

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/d27d150212707

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/922b7f0212821

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/15fc960212980

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1d6fbf0213101

Finally

Thomas and Lucy marrying

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/20b0b60574249

Tara
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: taramcdsmall on Saturday 07 November 15 12:00 GMT (UK)
Thomas Moran had a sister called Celia.

 Here is her marriage

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e707e10432314

Tara
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: taramcdsmall on Saturday 07 November 15 12:05 GMT (UK)
Actual marriage of Cecelia here

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000639782

Tara
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: taramcdsmall on Saturday 07 November 15 15:07 GMT (UK)
Thomas Moran had a brother called Charles.

Here is his marriage

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/bd2c060065476

Tara
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: taramcdsmall on Saturday 07 November 15 15:11 GMT (UK)
Thomas Moran had a sister called Julia

Here is her marriage

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/8f9ed00575995

Tara
Title: Re: whelan census help
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 07 November 15 16:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Jay and welcome to Rootschat,

Just to let you know that Sandy O'hara hasn't been on Rootschat since 25 August 14 ,but as long as she hasn't changed her email address, she should be notified that we have posted here and hopefully will come back online soon.