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Title: can't find John Johnstone
Post by: cundy on Sunday 17 August 14 13:45 BST (UK)

 Hi, I can't find John Johnston after 1851C,
   b 1838 Scaleby
   No marriage record,
   No death record
   1861C his wife elizabeth and daughter Mary are with grandparents MOFATT, Newtown off Rockcliff.
   Marys marriage cert 1879 states Father deceased occ Tailor
Title: Re: can't find John Johnstone
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 17 August 14 15:55 BST (UK)
Where and when were Elizabeth and Mary born to help us find them on census.  Giving the census reference number is always a help  ;D

Title: Re: can't find John Johnstone
Post by: JMStrachan on Sunday 17 August 14 19:05 BST (UK)
In the 1861 census, Elizabeth Johnston is age 20 and her daughter Mary is age 9 months. So if John Johnstone had died by then, it had to be no more than 18 months previously, giving a death date of 1859.

Mary Johnston's birth was registered Jan-Feb-Mar quarter 1860 at Longtown and if this is the right Mary she was actually 1 year old when the census was taken. There is a death for John Johnston registered at Longtown in Oct-Nov-Dec 1859. Can't find a marriage, though.


Title: Re: can't find John Johnstone
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 18 August 14 08:09 BST (UK)
Where and when were Elizabeth and Mary born to help us find them on census.  Giving the census reference number is always a help  ;D

Found it RG9/3912 f72 p11 - Living Kirklinton
Head of family Mary Moffett (other occupants Moffet)
Elizabeth Johnston dtr age 20 MARRIED born Scaleby
Mary A Johnston 9 months bn Kirklinton

Census gives Mary a middle initial A and Elizabeth is quoted as married.  ;)
Title: Re: can't find John Johnstone
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 18 August 14 08:14 BST (UK)
If you got the fathers first name from the marriage certificate it is quite likely it was wrong

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXKK-T6P

Marriage September qtr 1860 
Johnson    George       
Moffat    Elizabeth       
Moffit    Elizabeth       
Longtown    10b   491   

 
Title: Re: can't find John Johnstone
Post by: cundy on Friday 22 August 14 20:24 BST (UK)

 thanks, rosie99 and JMStrachan.
        cundy.