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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: robgen1 on Sunday 17 August 14 08:45 BST (UK)
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Hello All
I was wondering if anyone could assist with following Immigration Details of following
bit sketchy but have pieced together
GREEN, Charles Ernest
born approx 1877
died: 1948 NSW Australia
Lancashire ???
ASHTON Margaret Mary
born approx 1878
died: 1925 NSW Australia
Lancashire ???
Married 1902
District: Preston
2 children that i am aware of
GREEN Charles William
born:1903
died: 1940 - At Sea, Coast of Victoria, Australia
Preston Lancashire
GREEN Jack
born: ???
Unknown
I cant find a birth in Australia for Jack, I assume that Jack may have been born in Lancashire, England
I also cant establish when they came to Australia must be sometime after 1903 as son Charles William was born in England as per above
any assistance would be greatly appreciated
Cheers
Greg
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Hi Greg,
The Freebmd Lancashire website shows the marriage of Charles E and Margaret Mary Ashton 1902 at Preston St Matthew also the birth record of Charles W at St John Preston but I can't see any record for a Jack. There is another record for a Florence Ena Green with mothers maiden name Ashton 1908 but it's in Wigan and Leigh so unsure about that one.
There is also on the same website a birth record for a Margaret Mary Ashton b 1878 Trinity Preston with mmn Arkwright and a record for a Charles Ernest Green 1877 Lancaster Preston mmn Fisher.
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
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I've found a passenger ship record for a C E Green 46,and his wife M M Green 45,
Last address Preston and travelling to Sydney. There's just the two of them travelling together.
I can't see anything that fits for a Charles W or Jack
The date of the record is Feb 1924 and you can view the image at
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/
The index is free to view but you will need some credits to view the image.
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Hi
You might like to check these 2 out
Baptism: 2 Sep 1877 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Charles Ernest Green - [Child] of Charles William Green & Annie
Born: 1 Jul
Abode: Ulleswater Road
Occupation: Coach Builder
Baptised by: John Allen, Vicar
Baptism: 2 May 1883 St Luke, Weaste, Lancashire, England
Charles Ernest Green - [Child] of John Green & Jemima
Born: 12 May 1878
Abode: 75 Bridson St.
Occupation: Coachman
Baptised by: J. H. Carter
Heather
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Found a birth record for a John Henry Green b 1905 West Preston fairly sure this is Jack. Mother's maiden name has been transcribed as Ashron instead of Ashton.
There is a 1911 census for him with his mother and brother which transcription restrictions prevent me from posting.
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Hi
Do you think that 2 families are mixed up here or should I say connected Rolnora?
Marriage: 18 Dec 1902 St Peter, Swinton, Lancashire, England
Charles Ernest Green - 24, Miner, Bachelor, 2 S. Mary's Street
Sarah Elizabeth Wilkinson - (X), 28, Frame-Tenter, Spinster, 2 S. Mary's Street
Groom's Father: John Green, Contractor
Bride's Father: John Wilkinson, (deceased), Miner
Witness: James Walter Walker; Hannah Walker
Married by Banns by: D. O. Evans Curate
Heather
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1901
27 Peelhall? Street, Deepdale Preston
John Ashton Head 53 born Preston Engine Driver
Ellen Ashton Wife 52
Margaret M Ashton Daughter 23 Cotton weaver
Mary J Ashton Daughter 23 Cotton weaver
Ellen Ashton Daughter 21 Cotton weaver
Mary A Ashton Daughter 17 Cotton weaver
Mary J Ashton Daughter 15 Cotton weaver
Mary W Ashton Daughter 12
Mary A Ashton Daughter 10
George Ashton Son 8
Joseph V Ashton Son married 32 Engine Driver
Catherine Ashton daughter-in-law married 27
Edward V Ashton Grandson 8 Months
RG13/3947/100/8/48
All born Preston. Look at all the girls called Mary! ???
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I'm not sure yet they could be but I do think the Wilkinsons and Greens are two separate families. With the Greens living at No 214 and the Wilkinsons at No 212 but that's not to say they are not connected. ???
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Hi Rolnora,
thank you for reply, greatly appreciated, 1924 for journey to Australia Fits in and I think you are right with John Henry Green.
Sadly I gather the clues from Death Notices here in Australia so it just add to the issues of finding their place of origin
Cheers
Greg
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Hi heatherjulie
thank you for reply appreciated, Baptism: 2 Sep 1877 for Charles E Green is correct one
it has right parents Charles William and Annie Father was listed as Charles William
Cheers
Greg
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Greg,
As you know who his parents are I'm assuming that you have all the census records for him and his family ?
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Hi rolnora,
just doing the checking the census records now for all listed, the thing that threw me also was 3 children were listed here in Australia, so have concluded Charles Ernest was married here after arrival
and only 2 were born in UK
Cheers
Greg
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You could very well be right with that.
Passenger list shows them going to Sydney 1924 and you have Margaret Mary's death in 1925.
So he could have remarried.
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Hi rolnora,
have confirmed second marriage, so mystery solved ;D
Cheers
Greg
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Oh that's good :)
I was just going to suggest that the Australia Board might be more helpful with the second marriage and birth of the other child but you've sorted it now ;D