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Title: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: mellie1995 on Friday 15 August 14 19:06 BST (UK)
This is my first post to RootsChat and I am hoping someone can help with my search for information about my great grandmother?

Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy was born 08 Dec 1894 in Folkestone, she married Wilfrid Hardy abt 1915 in Elham (he was born Hartlepool 20 Apr 1885), they had one child - Wilfrid John before emigrating to Canada in 1921.

I found two instances of an Ivy Gwynne:

1901 Census - age 5 - daughter of Frances Gwynne
1911 Census - age 15 - sister to Caroline McInery

Family folklore is that she and her sister (name unknown) were orphans as their parents were killed in an accident when they were very young. I can't make a connection to the two records above...other than was she really the niece of Frances, therefore cousin to Caroline?

Any help would be much appreciated!!
Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 15 August 14 19:13 BST (UK)
Hi
A warm welcome to Rootschat.

This looks like her baptism record


Ivy Alberta Bidwell Gwynne

Gender Female

Baptism Date 12 Feb 1896

Baptism Place St. Michael, Folkestone, Kent, England

Mother Frances Margaret Gwynne 

Heather


Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 15 August 14 19:16 BST (UK)
Could this be her birth?

Ivy Alberta B Gwynne

Registration Year 1896

Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar

Registration district Elham  Kent

Volume 2a  Page 986a


Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 15 August 14 19:19 BST (UK)
James Cornelius McInery married Caroline Frances Gwynne in 1900 in Strood, Kent
Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 15 August 14 19:20 BST (UK)

Baptism
Caroline Frances Gwynne

Gender Female

Baptism Date 27 Oct 1878

Baptism Place Christ Church, Folkestone, Kent, England

Father  Henry Hector James Gwynne   

Mother Frances Margaret Gwynne 
Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 15 August 14 19:26 BST (UK)
In 1891, there is a  12 year old Caroline Frances Gwynne in The Soldiers Daughters Home in Hampstead
RG12/115/70/5
Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: JJen on Friday 15 August 14 19:30 BST (UK)
Hi,

A warm welcome from me also  :)

This link gives some information on the Gwynne family. It would appear that    
Henry Hector James Gwynne was a soldier -

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/KENT-ENG/2002-08/1028191300

That would tie in with the above census found be heatherjulie.

JJ

Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 15 August 14 19:35 BST (UK)
Henry Hector James Gwynne

Gender:Male

Marriage Date:2 Dec 1877

Marriage Place:Folkestone, Kent, England

Spouse:Frances Margaret Seddon 
Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 15 August 14 19:37 BST (UK)


Henry Hector J Gwynne

Estimated birth year abt 1848

Registration Year 1887

Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar

Age at Death 39

Registration district Malton

Yorkshire North Riding

Volume 9d Page 270
Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: JJen on Friday 15 August 14 19:39 BST (UK)
1891 for the Gwynne family transcribed as Georgens  ???

Frances M Georgens   widow 30 b. Folkestone, Kent
Fanny E Georgens   dau 10 b. Devonport, Devon
Harriett N Georgens   dau 8 b. Ireland
Bertha L Georgens   dau 6 b. Malton, Yorkshire
Henrietta Georgens   dau 4 b. Malton, Yorkshire

RG12; Piece: 748; Folio: 98; Page: 63, 8 St Michael's Sq. Folkestone

JJ
Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: JJen on Friday 15 August 14 19:49 BST (UK)
Frances Margaret Gwynne married q2 1901, Elham, Kent

Vol 2a Page 2020

She married either Albert Keeler or Patrick Murphy

JJ
Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: JJen on Friday 15 August 14 19:55 BST (UK)
Death  - Frances Margaret Murphy

q2 1908, Elham, Keny
Age at Death - 48
Registration district:   Elham
Vol 2a Page 629

JJ
Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: mellie1995 on Friday 15 August 14 19:56 BST (UK)
Wow..Thank you all so much for the fast response!

I did find most of that information in my search but my frustration still lies in making the connection as Henry Gwynne died years before my Ggrandmother was born!?

Regards,
MHL

Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: JJen on Friday 15 August 14 20:01 BST (UK)
You appear to have Ivy's birth date so therefore do you have her birth cert giving her father's name?

Unfortunately having looked at all the available information it would appear that Ivy was born out of wedlock.

As the name Bidwell appears in Ivy's name perhaps her father had the surname Bidwell.

JJ
Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: mellie1995 on Friday 15 August 14 20:47 BST (UK)
No birth certificate just her immigration paperwork that lists her DOB and it also lists her nearest living relative in 1921 as sister Mrs McInery living at 14 Montacue Ct, Westbourne Gdns, Folkestone.

I'm thinking the missing link is possibly a brother to Henry but I can't find any info?

Unless the whole story about her parents death and being raised by an Aunt and Uncle is not true?

MLH
Title: Re: Ivy Alberta Gwynne Hardy Folkestone 1894
Post by: dilinger on Tuesday 09 September 14 19:59 BST (UK)
Hi I am the great grandson of Frances Margaret Gwynne nee Seddon the mother of Ivy Alberta, if you would like more information on my family plse ctc me (*)

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