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Title: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Tuesday 12 August 14 19:58 BST (UK)
My mum passed away recently and trying to trace her family. I know my grandmother May Foster is buried in Stone broom my grandfather was James Baugh my mother was Glens Baugh she was born on 29/10/1939 she told my sister she was born in Stonebroom.bit kept mentioning Crich to me, she used to work in a moll in Matlock. Does the name Baugh or Foster from Stonebroom.or Crich ring any bells to anyone.   She said she had gypsy blood on her if this helps. Just trying to trace where where she came from thank you Samantha
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 12 August 14 20:20 BST (UK)
Hiya and welcome to Rootschat!

I wonder if your grandmother had a name other than May - there is a  marriage between James Baugh and Beatrice M Foster in Chesterfield registration district in Jun qtr (ref 2b 2061)
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 20:23 BST (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat.

I am having problems finding your mother's birth on Freebmd in 1939, but this looks like her in 1938

Births Dec quarter 1938   
Baugh    Glenys A    Foster    Chesterfield    7b   926

This shows her mother's maiden name was Foster and the birth was registered in the Chesterfield district. Places that come under Chesterfield can be found here.  http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/chesterfield.html

Her birth certificate would give the address where she was born. You can order this from the GRO at a cost of £9.25   http://www.gro.gov.uk/GRO/content/certificates/default.asp
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Tuesday 12 August 14 20:24 BST (UK)
I always thought they were married but has come tonight they wasn't. May died young she fell down stairs and died from a blood clot my mum was a young child when this happened. I know she has several siblings one called Barry Baugh, my grandfather James Baugh met someone else unsure if they married but he also died young from what I have been told and the children went into care.
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Tuesday 12 August 14 20:29 BST (UK)
Yes that is my mum ty I am sure my step father has her birth certificate somewhere I know my grandmother May is buried in Stonebroom
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 12 August 14 20:32 BST (UK)
Stonebroom would come under the Chesterfield registration district
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 12 August 14 20:33 BST (UK)
Possible death for Beatrice May Baugh - Sept qtr 1945, Chesterfield 7b 596 - dob abt 1903
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 20:34 BST (UK)
If you look on Freebmd you will see the births of 3 older children with Father Baugh and mother Foster. A girl in 1928, a boy in 1930 and a girl in 1934. I wont put their names here incase they are still alive.

If that is the right family, then your grandparents did marry in 1927 as Spidermonkey said.
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 20:37 BST (UK)
Two children born after your mother one in 1941 and another in 1944, including the one you mentioned.

What made you think they didn't marry?
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 20:43 BST (UK)
Your grandmother's birth

Beatrice May Foster
1903   Dec quarter
CHESTERFIELD   Derbyshire
Volume   7B  Page   736

and your grandfather's

Births Mar 1900   
Baugh    James        Chesterfield    7b   741
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 20:49 BST (UK)
Here is your grandfather's family in 1901
RG13 Piece number   3243  Folio number   73  Page   33

New Street, Claylane, Chesterfield, Derbyshire

Enoch Baugh   Head   Married    30   Coal Miner (Labourer)   Wolverhampton, Staffordshire   
Agnes   Baugh   Wife   Married    23                                   Oldham, Lancashire   
James   Baugh   Son   Single   Male   1                          Clay Cross, Derbyshire
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 20:51 BST (UK)
Great grandparent's marriage

June quarter 1899
Baugh    Enoch        Chesterfield    7b   1491      
Hart    Agnes        Chesterfield    7b   1491      
 
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Tuesday 12 August 14 21:25 BST (UK)
I always thought they had but my sister is under the impression they didn't.   I always thought they had.
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Tuesday 12 August 14 21:33 BST (UK)
My uncle.barry died in 2010 aged 68. Mum said he was the last of her siblings she was the last one alive. The name Enoch does ring a bell to me.
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Tuesday 12 August 14 21:42 BST (UK)
I can't thank you all enough my mum.passed away last Friday 08/08/2014 you have filled a big void for myself and.my sister nit knowing where we come from xx thank you so much xxx
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 21:45 BST (UK)
If that is the correct family, and I'm fairly sure it is, they definitely married.

Okay, as you have confirmed they are all dead, here are your mother's siblings All Baugh with mother's maiden name Foster and all born Chesterfield:
 
Joan    1928
 
James 1930    
 
Mavis 1934    
 
Glenys A    1938 
 
Barry 1941   

Jacqueline    1944 

Really sorry to hear of your loss. Do you want me to try and go further back, or would you like to do that yourself?
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Tuesday 12 August 14 21:48 BST (UK)
I would appreciate that so much I have wondered all my life about mum's side xx my mum is at peace now think her death hasn't hit me yet but it will x I am fortunate enough to have my mum's temperament x thank you x
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Tuesday 12 August 14 21:50 BST (UK)
My youngest daughters middle name is Jacqueline which is a coincidence but a very endearing one :-)
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 22:32 BST (UK)
1891 Enoch's family
RG12; Piece: 3763; Folio: 78; Page: 12
Temple Street, Castleford, Pontefract, Yorkshire


James Baugh   52 head    coal miner                               Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Ellen Baugh   61 wife                                                  Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Enoch Baugh   23 son      coal miner                              Wolverhampton, Staffordshire

In 1881, Enoch and his mother were living at 7, Ct 1 Albert Street, Kimberworth, Rotherham, She said she was married, so James may have been working away from home at the time of the census. Enoch aged 14 was described as a miner.



Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Tuesday 12 August 14 22:37 BST (UK)
Thank you I wouldn't know where to start xx this means so.much to.myself, my sister and our children x
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 22:45 BST (UK)
There is a possibility that Ellen was James's second wife, so not Enoch's mother as this is the 1871 census:
RG10; Piece: 2940; Folio: 134; Page: 20
Bilston Road, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire

James Baugh   32  coal miner               Wolverhampton
Mary Baugh   31                                Wolverhampton
Enoch Baugh   4                                  Wolverhamptob
 
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 22:47 BST (UK)
Yes, it looks as if she did die - so Enoch's mother was Mary, not Ellen - she was his stepmother

Deaths Dec 1874   
BAUGH    Mary    35    Wolverhampton    6b   343

Here is James's second marriage

Marriages Mar 1876   
Baugh    James        Wolverhampton    6b   700      
 Russel    Ellen        Wolverhampton    

Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 22:54 BST (UK)
Here is James's first marriage

 1864 June quarter
Baugh    James        Wolverhampton    6b   703      
 
Watkiss    Mary        Wolverhampton    

So these are your great great grandparents.
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 23:06 BST (UK)
This is your great great grandfather's family in 1841. This is the earliest census, so at the moment is as far back as I can go for you on that side. As you can see, he had a brother Enoch, so that is obviously why he used that name for his son.
They were living in Wolverhampton and were all born in Staffordshire.

Hope all that helps.

John Baugh   45   Stone miner
Fanny Baugh   45
Edward Baugh   15
John Baugh   12
Joseph Baugh   10
Isaiah Baugh   6
Enoch Baugh   4
James Baugh   2
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Tuesday 12 August 14 23:16 BST (UK)
Thank you so much you have put a smile on a grieving daughter's face this means so much to me as I know it will to my family you have filed gaps for my future generations xx thank you xxx
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 23:25 BST (UK)
I've sent you a PM about your grandmother.
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Tuesday 12 August 14 23:39 BST (UK)
Here is your Grandmother in 1911 - from FamilySearch

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X7TP-VW7
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Wednesday 13 August 14 01:05 BST (UK)
Many many thanks I am visiting my mum.in the chapel of rest tomorrow I will tell her all you have found out for me bets she isn't aware of all her relatives x you have made my mum not just exsist but belong somewhere think she went through life being the lost child notvreally.knowing where she ce from xx thank you again xxx
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Wednesday 13 August 14 08:21 BST (UK)
Glad to have been of help and I'm pleased it has given you some comfort at this sad time. I will have a look later and see if I can find out anything about the Foster side of the family, but being a more common name that is harder to make sure it is the correct family. There may be someone else on here who can help as well.

Take care

Jan
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: jamesbaughmayfoster on Wednesday 13 August 14 08:23 BST (UK)
Thank you Jan I can put into words how much what you have done for my mum and my family xx thank you beyond words x
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: groom on Wednesday 13 August 14 11:44 BST (UK)
I believe that Beatrice's parents were

James Foster born 1857 Bridge Carston  Lincolnshire (cant find where this is) There is a James Foster born 1857 and registered Louth Lincolnshire. Amongst the places covered by the Louth registration district is Castle Carlton, wonder if that is it.

Elizabeth       born 1858 Easton Northamptonshire.

Interestingly, in 1901 they were living as boarders in New Street, Claylane, Chesterfield, in a house next door but one to Enoch Baugh, Agnes Baugh and their one year old son, James. So it is possible that the two families knew each other, maybe James Baugh and Beatrice May Foster played together as children. 

If you want to follow this family back any further, I think you would need to get Beatrice May's birth certificate to make sure this is her father and to find her mother's maiden name.
Title: Re: stonebroom crich derbyshire james baugh may foster glenys baugh
Post by: samiejjones on Wednesday 01 July 20 15:03 BST (UK)
this site has been invaluable to me for finding  my roots which I never knew any of xx Have found long lost half uncles and cousins but I need your help I had an aunty Dorothy maiden name baughand i know she married a man called George I think he had a scrap yard in the chesterfield Derbyshire area x they had two sons i believe I oknw she has passed away but I cant find any trace of her Can you help me please